The suffering of others is unimaginative | They are no longer old

Emie 2022-04-20 09:02:18

Deducting one star is that 3D is really unfriendly to my high myopia. Recommend Liu Sanjie's short review of this movie on the sidelines of the villain.

they don't grow old anymore

Host: This movie has three minutes cut. If you mind friends, it is recommended to have the opportunity to make up the original version. November 11 is Singles' Day for many people, and it's Tmall's Double Eleven, but it's actually the end of World War I. This film was released abroad on November 11, 2018, and it is rare to see it in China a year later. (Below is the question section)

Question 1: In the film, the British veterans dictated many small events in the war. Which one impressed you the most?

Audience 1: Put your head in the toilet water.

Question 2: It is mentioned in the video that soldiers who go to the front line to participate in the battle will wash themselves as much as possible every day when they return to the rear to rest. Why?

Audience 2: It may be a feeling that today may not necessarily be tomorrow.

Audience 3: Probably wanting to have a feeling of being in the world.

Moderator: It's very similar to my understanding. I think the reason why I have to wash myself every day is to let myself remember what it feels like to live, because in the war it is a completely different state, a state of abnormal life.

Question 3: A soldier mentioned in the film: When fighting on the front line, everyone is like family, and they will help each other regardless of whether they have similar personalities or not. Once they return to the second line, everyone will be strangers. reason?

Audience 4: Either you die or I live on the battlefield. When they fight, they give their lives to their comrades. Like we fought the Korean War, there are also many war heroes. Such as blocking eye-catching, bombing a bunker with a grenade, and lying motionless in the fire. You have given your life to your comrades. You know that you will die. If you want to live, your comrades may fall. So when they were on the front line, they thought their lives were the same, but when they got to the second line, they would give up Think of it this way.

Audience 5: I would like to say, first of all, as mentioned at the end of the credits: the war is very cruel, they do not want to discuss the war. The second is that some people are very opposed to war. Maybe (war) is right between countries, but it's especially bad from the people's point of view, they don't want to remember these things anymore.

Moderator: I think there is malice in the war. Being able to bear a little friendliness and kindness in one's life as much as possible may be the strength to support a person's survival.

Question 4: Most of the British soldiers mentioned in the film had a kind of awe and respect for German prisoners of war. What made them cherish each other?

Audience 6: I think they are all young people of the same age, all like children. They all came to the battlefield so young, there may be a kind of sympathy for each other. In addition, they stand on different positions, but there is no right or wrong in this position. They are all fighting for their own country, so they will have a kind of respect.

Audience 7: The outbreak of World War I was a political game between several emperors in Europe. In 1917, everyone was a young man and was driven to the battlefield. In 1918 the economic situation in Britain and Germany collapsed. After the collapse, many ordinary people have seen through this kind of imperial power, so...

Moderator: In fact, everyone's experience is the same. The last question ( question 5 ): After the war, the soldiers return to where they came from, and their lives return to their previous state. They talk about war with ordinary people, and no one can relate to it. How do you feel about the mood of these soldiers?

Audience 8: I think most of them were a group of marginalized people before they enlisted in the army. They have experienced a hardship or disaster in their own life, but they are still a group of marginalized people when they return to society. This kind of loneliness or loneliness is general. People can't feel it. The film says that when they went back, not even their parents felt the pain and changes they went through. From the beginning of his expectation of contributing to the motherland, to the panic and despair after the war, and finally to the change of mood that he really escaped and returned to society, but did not get the respect he wanted, Only their kind can feel it. In addition, I have a question: why did the society at that time not accept veterans so much?

Audience 9: (responding to audience 8's question) Because they are discharged from the military, have no skills, and are in a state of derailment from society.

Moderator: In fact, it is the same as the inmates in the prison are not trusted by everyone. There is also a contradiction. After their return, the propaganda at the national level is to maintain them in a great image. That is, the war is to be packaged. Just like our current media, it will only let you see what you want to see. No one will tell you how cruel the war is. Is there anything else you want to talk about?

Audience 10: (A woman in her 40s and 50s who is the oldest audience member) My feeling is that we need peace. War is cruel. We are all like this, and our border guards are also very hard. Those who do not participate in war do not understand the cruelty of war. Countries need peace.

" Final "

I thought of a text that has nothing to do with the movie, from Lin Yihan's "Fang Siqi's Paradise of First Love". When I heard the last question at the scene, I only had this sentence from the novel in my mind: people have no imagination for the pain of others . (This is the perception of the victim girl Guo Xiaoqi, I believe it is also from Fang Siqi and Lin Yihan)

Every time he reviewed a response, Xiaoqi felt like he had been stabbed.

It turns out that people have no imagination for the suffering of others , and a vile context - a rich and powerful man, a young and beautiful mistress, a tearful wife - regards everything as a dull context, and once it comes out (Exit) Eight o'clock, because people are unwilling to admit that there is indeed inhuman pain in the world, people will deny it when it is vaguely clear, otherwise people's small peace will appear evil. In an age where everyone is vying to call themselves losers, no one wants to admit that there is a group of girls in the world who are the real losers. That kind of minor pain and happiness are two sides of the same: everyone sits and enjoys a little happiness, and shouts a little pain - when the naked pain is brought to him, his happiness appears ugly, and his pain appears frivolous. .


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  • Lilla 2022-03-24 09:03:19

    At that time, young people really knew little about war. Many were under 18 or even 16 years old. They lied about their age and wanted to join the army. They went to the brutal battlefield like a meat grinder. High-definition restoration and coloring make history more vivid, looking at the faces facing the camera one by one, as if it happened yesterday.

  • Vinnie 2022-03-29 09:01:07

    The zeal of patriotism and the self-confidence of the British rule of the world have turned into clouds in the trenches of Flanders. Compared with World War II, the shock of World War I to society and the country was more profound. Young soldiers went from passionate to numb and then again. To the hesitation after retiring, the complete disappearance of the Victorian ethos of romanticizing war and archaic weathering has been announced.

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They Shall Not Grow Old quotes

  • Soldier: [waving at camera] Hi, mum.

  • Soldier: You don't look, you see. You don't hear, you listen. You taste the top of your mouth. Your nose is filled with fumes and death. But the veneer of civilization has dropped away.