Bastard War: 囧 and three silly-whose credit and whose fault?

Larue 2022-01-09 08:03:03

After watching the ninth episode, Shuang also anticipated serious disagreements and heated discussions on the Internet.

This victory has been awaited for a long time, and it is very satisfying, but it is also costly and the losses are heavy. And Sansa moved the rescuer from the valley to Littlefinger without telling Jon, which is one of the most important reasons for the gains and losses of this war.

The audience's reaction to this was more polarized:
a. Sansa is a bitch. Selfish and stupid, too much, he would rather almost sacrifice Jon to protect himself wholeheartedly, than to mention that a large number of rescuers may finally appear, leaving so many soldiers dead in the North and the savages in vain. If she told Jon the truth, maybe they would change their tactics, and Rickon might not die. (More extreme: Some people think that everything is her conspiracy. She deliberately wants Rickon and Jon to die with Skinning in this war, so she can be the queen of Winterfell/Northern.)

b. Sansa Is it the savior? If she didn't write to Littlefinger, there would be no rescuer at all. She didn't tell Jon because she wasn't sure whether Little Finger would come, or she was afraid that Jon was too proud to accept Little Finger's help. Moreover, Jon still directly hit the small skinning plan even though Sansa had reminded him, rushed to the front and started the battle early, not only failed to save Rickon, but also led the army into an ambush. The soldier in the north was dead because of his own impulse, lack of reason and blind self-confidence. Even if he waited for the valley army to come to fight together, maybe he would take them to death together. (More extreme: Sansa was wisely testing Jon the night before the battle to see if he was calm enough. It turned out that he was not enough. Sansa felt that if he told him, he would only waste the soldiers in the valley to save Rickon.)

Now let me talk about my thoughts. :
Ab all makes sense, all are possible. ab is wrong.

In my opinion, this is actually very simple:
Sansa and Jon are both the heroes of this war, and they both made very stupid and even fatal mistakes. But without either of them, the Stark family would not win this battle.

Both of them have gone through too much hardship, and both are eager to avenge the Stark family while trying their best to survive. The mistakes they made are inseparable from their experiences; they all want to "make up for their previous mistakes" too much:

Jon has been in the night watchman team before, and failed to help when Daid and Carrot died. busy. I can only hear from a distance that both father and brother are dead, and the little sister is still alive or dead, and now I know that the eldest sister was raped and abused by a bastard. How guilty is in his heart! So when he watched Xiao Peiying shoot Rickon to death in front of him, even though he knew he was the commander of this war, even though he understood that this was probably a trap, even though Sansa frankly reminded him that Rickon was dead no matter what. It was settled, but he still couldn't control himself and rushed out directly, causing both himself and the northern soldiers to enter the skinning trap in advance. Because he wanted to protect and save his family too much.
--- Is this a stupid mistake? Yes! But can you understand? Absolutely! Jon is also human.

It's not unreasonable for Sansa to call Sansa, she was simple and vain before. She first believed that Xiao Qiao was her true son, and that she was a kind mother-in-law, but the two killed her father. Later, she believed that Xiao Meigui was her good sister with a kind heart. Just using her, she ended up to marry a dwarf, and then heard that the Lion’s blood marriage killed her mother and her brother; then she believed that her own aunt would take her in and love her, but found that Lysa was a poisonous death Her husband’s mental illness almost killed her because of jealousy; in the end, she believed that Little Finger liked her and was willing to protect her, but Little Finger sent her into the hands of the devil. She is so regretful! So when she knew that there might be a rescuer, even though she was next to her brother, even though she knew that concealing this information might mean that many soldiers in the north, including Jon, would die. Although she didn’t think Jon would harm her, she Still chose to keep this secret, to ensure that no matter what the battle situation, the wolf family can finally replace the skinning to rule Winterfell (the overall situation). Because she was too afraid that she would believe the wrong person again.
--- Is this a stupid mistake? Yes! But can you understand? Absolutely! Sansa is also human.


In my opinion, both Jon and Sansa were too far, because of the painful lessons of the past, "excessive force", hoping to prove that they can get rid of the previous mistakes.

The irony is that everything is done and everything is too late. By doing so, they have made a new mistake: Jon has lost his sanity and Sansa has no trust. But can you blame them, really?

--- What right does Sansa have to be disappointed with Jon's tactics and impulse? She has never been on the battlefield. Although she knows a little bit about theory from Littlefinger's teaching, she actually can't even swing a sword.

--- What right does Jon have to blame Sansa for not trusting him? He didn't even realize that she was no longer the little girl who only wanted to marry the prince. Although she knew Xiao Pei Pi better than anyone else, she didn't even bother to ask her opinions.

People always have to learn. And they still have a long way to go.
They will make more similar mistakes, until hopefully one day, they can wake up from the impact of the past pain, find the point of balance, and become a better person. As for whether this day will come or not, when it will come, it all depends on the old man's mood. . .


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PS:
One of the conversations I particularly like in this episode is the eve of the war, Sansa said to Jon: "If we lose tomorrow, I'm not going back there alive. Do you understand me?" (If you lose tomorrow, I will never go back alive.)

I believe she really meant it when she said this, from the heart, not just to stimulate jon. She was really ready to commit suicide. Not only was she afraid of going back to be tortured by skinning, but also because she would rather die as a Stark than live humiliatingly back to be a Lady Bolton.

After she finished this sentence, I was really mixed.
On the one hand, I want to applaud her. She is so decisive, cold, hard-hearted, and a little stupid, brave and stubborn, so she looks like a daddy. Would rather bend than bend. She has the demeanor of a child from the north, in sharp contrast with her various softer southern features in her early years.
On the other hand, I felt both distressed and sad, but also chilly. A girl under twenty years old, after seriously considering the worst consequences, calmly said that she was ready to commit suicide. War and the struggle for kingship, and years of wandering, left Sansa too deeply affected. Of course there is good growth, but more of it is scars. The little girl who is innocent and easy to believe in others, worships chivalry and glory, and pursues romantic love, has had to become as hard and cold as the northern icefield in order to survive in the cruel reality. Like the original chapter in Sansa's written: My skin has turned from porcelain to ivory to steel ( literally: my skin has changed from ceramics, turned into ivory, turned into steel.).

Of course, she really stupid beginning Up. Of course, her mistake indirectly killed her father. Of course she has to grow up, it's a good thing to be strong. This is all right.
But, does she really deserve to experience so many terrible things to learn these principles? Imagine if Sansa is your sister or daughter, would you like to see her "grow up" at such a high price? To be honest, I would rather my daughter stay in the castle as a princess in a foolish and vain way, and then try my best to protect my daughter in her little world for as long as possible.

--- I think this is Jon's reaction after hearing this sentence. It is as complicated as I am: I have admiration, appreciation, anger, motivation, self-blame, sadness, distress, chills, and even fear.

So his sad and apologetic expression is perfect.
He said you rest assured, I promise I will protect you. I promise. (Just like what Ned said to Lyanna.) When Sansa turned away and said coldly, "You can't protect me, and no one can protect anyone", I think Jon must be heartbroken. Although Sansa who daydreamed all day and discriminated against him was annoying, would he really want to see her grow up cruelly like this?
And how could Sansa, who was ready to die, planned to kill her own brother? She just had to accept that victory requires a price. Tears are useless, promises are useless, and at critical moments, you can only choose yourself.


In short, when the banner of the ice wolves is flying over Winterfell again, I believe all is forgiven. Otherwise, look at the trailer for the tenth episode, didn’t Jon and Sansa both reconciled~ That kiss on the forehead, Aww~~

Of course, If in the end Sansa fails to find balance, loses herself in vengeance, and declares war with Jon in order to seize the rule of the North, then I can only say that Sansa's story is a total tragedy.

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    This season is not as good as previous seasons. I'm already a little disgusted with the part about the real dragon girl. You can conquer the world with your mouth cannons.

  • Tyrel 2022-03-21 09:02:44

    If you don't have the ability to adapt, don't change it. Has this bento been over your head?

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