Let’s talk about scarface culture (I’m really curious why there is no comment on Douban that mentions the huge influence of this movie, and it’s too violent to treat it as a normal movie)

Herta 2021-10-13 13:08:25

The complaint I want to post has already been written in the title, so I won’t repeat it here.

The translation of this Scarface has always felt a bit low, and it is always considered to be a B-rated film imitating Shaw Brothers movies, but it has been widely circulated, nothing more. The scarface below refers specifically to the scarface.


It seems that many foreign-language articles used the words "legend", "historical" and "culture" when commenting on the movie Scarface . For example, the following words are very common:

Scarface with Al Pacino is one of the most popular, iconic gangster films ever made.

For example, the influence of scarface culture is probably like the influence of a heroic character. Al Pacino's position in the minds of Westerners is probably like that of Fa Ge in the hearts of generations of Chinese. Taking into account the widespread use of English, the pioneering significance of scarface and the lasting influence of scarface in hip-hop culture , I think the influence of scarface culture should be more profound than that of a hero, although the two are not comparable.

When a movie becomes popular, the implicit meaning of the movie will always be fully interpreted. Did the producers of this movie think that these meanings are meaningless, because people need to go through these meanings? To understand why this movie is so popular, they believe that a popular culture is popular because these meanings are closely related to people's situations, and use this to explore these popular cultural meanings. The words of the creator of the work are meaningless at this time, because when a work is produced, its interpretation power has been completely given to the audience.

The same goes for the scar face.


What kind of story is Scarface

If it is for me to generalize, I think Scarface is a story that discusses "equal rights", "American dream", "materialism and humanity", and contains a strong aesthetic of violence. Let’s talk about the aesthetics of violence. The definition on the Internet is very complicated. I understand that the aesthetics of violence is a performance of a violent scene, not to make the audience resent violence, but to set off the appeal of the so-called character. For example, in the violent scenes in the Fall of the Black Hawk, you do not feel the heroism of the various forces after watching it, but the disgust of war. For another example, it is difficult for you to hate the old gentleman in the Silent Lamb, because the former is violent and the latter is violent aesthetics. The impressive scene in Scarface fully embodies the aesthetics of violence: Tony is tied up and held in the bathtub, and his companion is sawed to death by a chainsaw. The scene that was supposed to show the great devastation of criminal behavior to people was actually focused on Tony's face, thereby highlighting Tony's perseverance in the face of threats and heroism that is not afraid of death. This scene has also been controversial, critics claim that the three views of the film are not correct.

The so-called equal rights is closely related to Tony's identity as an immigrant. Except for the American society’s attitude towards Cuban immigrants at the beginning, Tony and his partners only acted as servants at the bottom of the society, which either directly express or indirectly imply that immigrants and ordinary people have different rights. Tony, as an immigrant pursuing his dreams in the United States, is most likely to cause these Americans in immigrant countries to empathize. Tony is ambitious, ambitious, courageous, and unwilling to be in his own situation. Facing the eldest woman, he dared to hook up. Such an ambitious person would always make the young people who chased the American dream in that era fascinated, so the role of Tony became popular. The birth of such a character is not inevitable, but the popularity of this character is definitely a historical necessity.

The American dream is also one of the themes of the movie, and similar to the great Gaisby, both use women as the carrier of the American dream. This is natural, because the most basic thing to get a woman is to have money, and secondly, to achieve many other conditions that are even hard to explain. These efforts to pursue women and the complexity of women’s minds are all related to the American dream. Coincidentally. Gaithby's American dream was shattered, but did Tony's American dream come true? Tony got the woman who was thinking about it, but he was caught in the entanglement between material and human nature. On the one hand, he discovered that he got this woman who only made friends with so-called material and fame, but claimed that he did not adore material or money, so hypocritical and a drug addict. On the other hand, he longed to have a child and build a complete family. A desire full of humanity cannot be realized. Always wondering if Gaisby would get into these entanglements if he got Daisy, no one knew. What we know is that the tragedy has actually happened to Tony. After knowing his situation, he is also reflecting on his family history. Good and evil are no longer important to him, because he discovered the American dream he has been pursuing for so many years. It's just a hypocritical bitch, and the big people with beautiful clothes are also hypocritical scumbags. He finally couldn't help it, yelling, scolding and accusing the guests in the restaurant. But people can't help themselves in the arena. In the car, he gave up killing the exposer's family. At this critical juncture, he chose humanity. It was precisely this choice that pushed him to the grave. Tony's American dream was also disillusioned with his own death.

The influence of this movie

Since its release in 1983, countless gangster movies have imitated Scarface in one way or another; crime writers have found inspiration in the film’s storyline and themes... And every year, at least two action movies have a role in them. Asked to say hello to the kid in front of him after he killed another person who was brandishing a gun. ———— FRAZIER THARPE from Complex

The film is widely cited in popular culture, especially in rap and hip-hop music, comic books, television and video games. This movie has long become a movie classic. ——Wiki

The film’s lines, protagonist Tony and interesting elements have been quoted by countless works, and have been adapted into two PC games. Even the film itself has been continuously packaged and sold decades after its release: in 2004, Scarface was sold for 20 years. Performed in New York in the form of anniversaries. In 2004, the 20th anniversary DVD was released. In 2011, there was even a $999.99 commemorative DVD gift set containing remake movies, a 1932 version of Scarface movie and a documentary about Scarface Phenomenon .

the world is yours

say hello to my little friend

say goodnight to the bad guy

These three lines are well-known lines in the movie. Especially the world is yours, this sentence appeared in the scarface as early as 1932, and appeared again in the scarface in 1983. This sentence full of wildness and ambition can be said to be Tony's life creed and the spiritual goal of many people, even this sentence itself has become a popular culture. In the 2016 movie "The Arms Dealer", this sentence was engraved under a gift-a pure gold grenade. Enter the world is yours on amazon, and you can search for a lot of clothes, hats, models and chains designed with this sentence as an icon. There is even a movie and a record named after it.

As a violent movie, Scarface in 1937 and 1983 have been criticized sharply. Because of the Hayes Act, the earlier version of Scarface was not even smoothly released. JE Smyth claimed that Scarface is "one of the highly censored movies in Hollywood history." His script has also been frequently criticized by Hayes' office, so Hughes said: "This movie can only be smashed by Hayes' office. It really came out." The early version of Scarface took two endings in order to pass the review. In the version that responded to the review, Tony was caught in the face of the police, was sentenced, and finally walked to the gallows. The original version is that Tony was killed by the police in a shootout.


What makes people feel strange is the profound and lasting influence of this film on rap culture.

A movie has such a profound and lasting influence on the rap culture around the world, and even now it is still being talked about by pop culture authors. This is very rare. Perhaps only the Scarface movie has such a great power. The movie itself became very successful with the popularity of rappers. Even Pacino himself (playing Tony) attributed the success of Scarface to the rappers. He said, "Rappers really understand it. The essence of (referring to this movie), they understand it, they have been so active for so many years, I think they have helped us a lot." ([Rappers] really get it and they understand it, and that's a great thing," " They've been very supportive all these years. I think they've helped us tremendously.”)

Tony is ambitious, ruthless, persevering, from scratch to success and quickly decimated. Such an anti-hero image is irresistible to rappers who promote rebellious and anti-mainstream rappers. Some people even think that the whole story frame of this movie is built for rappers, and this kind of remarks are not surprising. Many of Tony's words are even used as mottos to sing in the rappers circle, such as "In this country, you must first get money. Only when you get money, you will get power. Only when you get power first, you will get a woman." "All I have in this world is my guts and credibility. I will not abandon them for anyone." "I will always tell the truth, even when I lie."

In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women"; "All I have in this world is my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."; "I always tell the truth. Even when I lie."

Many Scarface movie lines, story lines and original soundtracks have been adapted and recorded by the avid rappers into their own works.

Scarface has influenced many rappers including Jay-Z, NWA, Ice Cube and even Grandmaster Flash since it was screened. The reviews of these singers were included in the 2003 "Def Jam Recordings Present Music Inspired by Scarface" album. It is hard to imagine that there is a rapper whose name is scarface! So the "Scarface" 20th Anniversary Special Edition DVD released in 2004 also included a short documentary about how the Scarface movie affects hip-hop culture and music, " Scarface: Origins of a Hip-Hop Classic " even makes people feel Naturally , this 20-minute documentary has interviewed many famous hip-hop characters and tried to explore the film’s influence on rap culture. Because this is incredible!

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Extended Reading
  • Ena 2021-10-20 18:59:00

    Michelle Pfeiffer-a stunning appearance from the back. Really gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous.

  • Mireya 2021-10-20 18:59:38

    Probably the feeling of the grandfather of Hong Kong gunfight movies in the 1980s and 1990s. Compared with this film, in contrast to the current genre films, 90% of the films are mentally handicapped films. It is a pity that the audience's IQ has dropped so much in just 30 years.

Scarface quotes

  • Tony Montana: [watching flamingos on TV] Manny, look at the pelican fly. Come on, pelican!

  • Tony Montana: Every dog has his day, huh, Mel?

    Mel Bernstein: I told him. It didn't make any sense, clipping you when we had you working for us. He wouldn't listen. He got hot tonight, about the broad, you know? He fucked up.

    Tony Montana: You too, Mel. You fucked up.

    Mel Bernstein: Don't go too far, Tony.

    Tony Montana: I not, Mel, you are.

    [Tony shoots Bernstein in the gut; he gasps and groans]

    Mel Bernstein: Fuck. You can't shoot a cop!

    Tony Montana: Whoever says you was one?

    [Tony leans forward, aiming the gun at Bernstein]

    Mel Bernstein: Wait a minute! You let me go, I'll fix this up.

    Tony Montana: Sure, Mel. Maybe you can hand out yourself one of them first class tickets to the Resurrection.

    Mel Bernstein: Fucking punk. Son of a bitch.

    Tony Montana: [stands up] So long, Mel, have a good trip.

    Mel Bernstein: Fuck you!