Oysters or snails, this is not the problem

Emil 2021-11-13 08:01:24

Update on February 6, 2020:

Now, oysters are still snails, which is indeed a problem.

Don't ask who the bell is ringing for, everyone has to answer the question.

Shh~

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Spartacus' future right-hand man, Antoninus (Tony Curtis, "Enthusiasm" and "The Taste of Success") was originally a slave to the Roman nobleman Crassus (Laurence Olivier). The scene where he was taking a bath for the host was deleted when it was first screened, and it was restored on the DVD. Oliver's lines about eating oysters or eating snails are a famous little gay codeword in movie history. The whole scene was shot with a fixed camera with a slight overhead view. The whole scene was shot with a panoramic view. There were no close-ups or close-ups. There was a gauze curtain between the camera and the bath. Crassus was sitting, Antoninus behind him. The soothing background music is accompanied by the soothing sound of water, which is a bit mysterious and a bit sultry. Crassus:Do you steal.Antoninus? Antoninus:No.Master. C:Do you lie? A:Not if I can avoid it. C:Have you ever dishonored the gods? A:No.Master. C:Do you refrain from these vices out of respect for the moral virtues? A:Yes.Master. C:Do you eat oysters? A:When I have them,master. C:Do you eat snails ? A:No.Master. C:Do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral and the eating of snails to be immoral? A:No.Master. C:Of course not.It is all a matter of taste, isn' t it? A:Yes.Master. C:And taste is not the same as appetite and therefore not a question of morals, is it? A: ... C: Hmm? A: It could be argued so, master. (Get out of the bath) C: My taste includes both snails and oysters. If you don't understand it from the perspective of a young gay, the lines and sentences of this bathroom show are inexplicable and all digress. If you understand it from the perspective of a young gay, it is a carefully designed sentence, not only about these two characters, but also about the entire film; for this reason, it is too gay. So no matter how it was deleted, it is not wrong at all. (Open the curtain and walk to the outer room) C: Antoninus, look. Across the river. There is something you must see. , A group of Roman soldiers marching along the river on the other side of the river) C: There, Boy, is Rome. The might, the majesty, the terror of Rome. There is the power that bestrides the known world like a colossus. No man can withstand Rome .No nation can withstand her.How much less a boy!Hmm?There's only one way to deal with Rome.Antoninus.You must serve her.You must abase yourself before her.You must grovel at her feet.You must...love her .Isn't that so. Antoninus? (Speaking of which, Crassus turns around, Antoninus has disappeared) Spartacus, which is a huge production, is simplified to the extreme, and the civilian side (Charles Laughton ["Hunter's Night"" "Prosecution Witness"] is omitted Gracchus), is the battle between Spartacus and Crassus. Who can win the freedom, democracy and equality of the United States and the rule of the nobility in the shape of a pyramid in Rome? In historical themes, it is not the choreographer who has the final say who is alive and who dies. It has to look at who can get love and who can't. Crassus's favorite slave girl Varinia (Jean Simmons, "Great Expectations" and "Hamlet") became Spartacus's woman and gave birth to him. It was not a big deal; the male slave Antoninus he fancy also turned to Spartacus and remained unswervingly. Crassus' frustration is twofold. He won the war but became the loser in the movie. In the two scenes repeated above, Crassus wanted to fully conquer Antoninus, preaching to the latter from two levels. In the bathroom scene, Crassus tried to persuade Antoninus to love women or men only about taste, not appetite, nor morals. The latter is only the only thing. In the next scene, Crassus tempted the latter to dedicate himself to Rome, which exists as power itself, so that he was fascinated by himself. He didn't even notice the remarks and made Antoninus choose to leave. After Spartacus was defeated, he and Antoninus were both captured. Crassus caused the two to fight each other, and the winner would be nailed to the cross the next day. Dying from a sharp weapon is far more merciful than dying slowly on the cross, and both want to kill each other. Antoninus was stabbed and said, I love you like my own father. Spartacus looked into his eyes and replied, I love you like a son I never met. Then the two embraced tightly, their cheeks pressed together until Antoninus stopped breathing. In ancient Greece, love between mentors and teenagers was not common enough. It should be said that it was institutionalized. Kubrick's handling of "great friendship" is both subtle and precise. His dehumanizing tendency is also beginning to emerge in the role of Crassus.

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Extended Reading
  • Turner 2022-04-23 07:01:41

    But it didn't work, I heard that Kirk Douglas stole the editing rights, should it be very different?

  • Maia 2021-11-13 08:01:24

    79/100 If this movie is completely controlled by Kubrick, it should probably also be a god. The idealization of Spartacus's setting may be because he does not need a realistic description. On the surface, the world is all Spartacus tossing, but behind it is the story of Crassus.

Spartacus quotes

  • Spartacus: I'd rather be here, a free man among brothers, facing a long march and a hard fight, than to be the richest citizen of Rome, fat with food he didn't work for, and surrounded by slaves.

  • Batiatus: Anyone who believes I'll turn informer for nothing is a fool. I bore the whip without complaint.

    Gracchus: Indeed, that sounds like a bad attack of dignity.