s8e3 should always be nailed to the pillar of shame

Sharon 2021-12-02 08:01:26

Some people in the comments corrected or put forward some opinions about the core of Ice and Fire, and people who kept asking s8e4 and e5e6, the following are some of my personal opinions.

Although the last three episodes were hopelessly rotten, the collapse of the characters and the illogical plot had already occurred in the first few seasons (although it was not so serious). So I still think that the third episode’s treatment of strange ghosts is the benchmark for the complete unfinished end of the entire episode. It marks the complete collapse of the plot and is of commemorative significance. (This is my personal opinion. You can naturally think that other episodes are more suitable. Be a bad benchmark).

The struggle between alien ghosts and humans is naturally not the theme and value of the ice and fire story, but it is a clue that leads the main line and spans thousands of years of history. Therefore, such a treatment in the play is a very serious plot collapse. If I really want to say my personal preference, I think the fascinating part of Ice and Fire lies in its structure of the entire world and its insinuation of the real history, plus a certain amount of reflection and reconstruction. Therefore, I think that one of the failures of the series is that it has been freeze-framed with the label of a pornographic and dead protagonist. The depiction of the entire world of Ice and Fire is based on the stories, prequels, historical collections, and the experiences, memories, and legends of various big and small characters in the main story. Especially the way the pov is written is to use different perspectives and different classes to describe the world of plumpness. So how can this be achieved in the play? It has no energy or financial resources to complete the construction of the entire world, and it cannot describe the survival of the people of various classes and countries in details. Take the Erya line, for example, through Erya's perspective, we can see how miserable the survival of ordinary people under the war. However, it is rarely reflected in the play. There were some in the first four seasons, and almost disappeared later. It became a story of princes and generals, but this is not what Binghuo really wants to express. The worldview in the play is empty, and the plot is pushed purely for the purpose of pushing the plot. I can still understand it, because the material and financial resources are limited, it is impossible to completely rebuild an entire world. So even though the last four seasons can't be compared with books, they have a very good conscience.

If we say that the construction of the overhead world is unsatisfactory and cannot reflect the depth of the original work, it is understandable. The collapse of the plot is really a matter of the ability and sincerity of the screenwriter. After all, the drama can concentrate on the plot. The alien line was not what I cared about the most. The Jon line in the book is the one that I am not interested in; in contrast, I prefer Sansa and Theon line. Many of Sansa's povs are undercurrents, full of conspiracies and tricks among the princes everywhere. Theon and Sansa are both relatively complex and highly transformed characters, but unfortunately, the portrayal of these two characters in the play (even if you don’t watch the eighth season) simply failed to the extreme. This shows that the screenwriters Some delicate and complicated characters don't care, or don't care at all. The adaptation of the Sansa line can be said to directly destroy the character of Sansa. Of course, there are also a series of broken characters such as Stannis, Jon and so on. These are all things that happened before the eighth season.

Far away, what I want to say is that the water has actually started from the fifth season, but in many places you can still persuade yourself to reluctantly accept it, because the essence of the main story of the ghost is not over yet. If the world view is not established, it can be said that funds and time are limited; some characters are poorly formed, and the branch lines are cut, and it can still be said that there is insufficient energy and financial resources; but there is only such a clear main line, and only one remaining is also the introduction and the whole story. There are enough clues in the front, and it is so bad that it is really and completely bad, so bad that there is no reason to be forgiven. Therefore, it can be used as a benchmark episode of Quan You's plot that is completely unfinished.

*s8e6 update

The ending of Jon killing Dany is actually not difficult to guess. According to Long Ma’s prediction, the last betrayal of the fire was because of "love". Seeing the ending of the drama version, the real ending is basically clear. It is more likely that in the battle with the ghosts, AA reincarnated, the prophesied prince, Jon, used Dany's sacrificial sword to forge a messenger of light, leading mankind to defeat the ghosts. It's a pity that the screenwriters didn't choose to shoot according to the foreshadowing and predictions of the previous seasons and the original work. Although I don't know why they changed it like this, it is really a pity. King Brandang is even more nonsense, or the screenwriter has not done a good job of preparation and follow-up finishing. If nothing else, just talk about religious beliefs. Just like Qu Chang said, Bran is the representative of the old gods, and Westeros’ mainstream religion is the seven gods. How can you be a king? It is incredible. .

The two screenwriters who have no respect for this story should be nailed to the pillar of shame. They have failed the expectations and feelings of fans of global power travel.

******s8e5 update

This article was indeed written by me out of anger after watching the third episode. At that time, I still had illusions and hoped that the next few episodes would hit me in the face. As a result, everyone knew it. Many people want to ask me about my feelings about seeing the fourth and fifth episodes. That is what I said below. The third episode ruined the worldview and core of Ice and Fire, and turned the most epic and most epic line into shit. How to act later It's just messing up the shit, and no matter how bad it is, it will be garbage made out of the garbage, which is expected and not surprising (manually smile).

*******Original Comment

I first killed a group of people with one shot. After watching the third episode, I really wanted to wash the floor for this show. 99% of them were following the trend and acting forcefully. Either I didn’t have aesthetics, logic or brains, or I didn’t really love ice and ice. Song of Fire. Ten years ago, I was a fan of the Lord of the Rings and was recommended by a friend who loves Western magic to The Song of Ice and Fire. I plunged headlong into the world of ice and fire. From then on, Wushan is not a cloud. At that time, my studies were tense and I read the book intermittently for a year or two. At this time, the drama came out. Both the quality and the adaptation were excellent works. The Song of Ice and Fire became my mind, regardless of the original film, television drama, and the Lord of the Rings. A work on par. In the past ten years, I have recommended countless times with others, exchanged every detail with my colleagues, watched the analysis of hundreds of thousands of words by the great gods, and discussed every character, but this is the ending. It is not sad. Do you still want to compare with the Lord of the Rings? The book is still fine, the drama is fine, this unfinished drama is eligible to be compared with bp? it is ridiculous. When I was a student without money, I spent a lot of money to buy the original book and the world of Ice and Fire (even if my English wasn't good enough at the time, I would buy it). Why, because I love this story, I love this world. I love its long history, from the dawn to the heroic era, from the first Andal’s landing on the land of Westeros, from the prosperous Valyria to an instant destruction, from the conqueror with three dragons’ blood and setting fire to a prairie fire. . Those are stories and heroes that have been passed down from generation to generation. Their names are familiar to every Westeros people: Aegon, Namelia, Visania, Renis, Namelia, the city-forge Brandon... and the horror legend that everyone knows, Long Night, in the Dawn Era that lasted a whole generation of winter, in the endless dark night, alien ghosts invaded Westeros and killed Almost everyone, the great leader Yasor Yahai, used his wife to sacrifice the sword. When it was pulled out of her chest, it lit up a blazing flame and became a "bringer of light." He used this sword to bring the leading people and the son of the forest to drive the alien ghosts back to the bitter cold land of the far north. After more than 8,000 years, Westeros changed dynasties, and the Game of Thrones went on one after another. The people on the chessboard changed and changed. The story of strange ghosts seemed to exist only in the mouth of the old mother. Until now the beginning of the story we know well. The people in the story were born in a long summer, and everyone said that after a long summer, there will be a longer and harsher winter. Mei Li Shandro said: "After the long summer, the stars are weeping and the cold envelopes the earth, Azor Yahhai will be reborn from the land of smoke and salt, holding the burning sword of the light messenger, and fighting against the enemies of Lakhlo. Save the world." (Aunt Mei thought Stannis was Azor Yahai at the time, so she had to support him, as explained in the play). In the first season of the play, the red comet has appeared, the dragon has been resurrected, and everyone has been enveloped in the atmosphere of the end of the summer and the approaching winter. Let me talk about the two protagonists first. Xue Nuo and Long Ma will go to Prince Rega first. For the prophesied prince, they would rather elope with Lyanna, the blood of the wolf, and give birth to the charming hero of the play, Xue Xue promise. Rega’s younger sister Daenerys learned of her prophecies about three groups of fire and three betrayals because of her subjugation and exile. For countless times, Dany dreamed that she was riding on a dragon and bathing the ground with fire. The army, they wear black ice armor and have blue eyes. For so many years, the party has been speculating on who these two are Azor Yahai, what is the messenger of light, where is the place of smoke and salt, what is the secret of the city of learning, and the "wife" who was sacrificed to the sword. "Who is it, what does Dragon Ma’s three fire prophecies refer to, who is the prince in the prophecy (now it can be determined to be Xue Nuo), what are the metaphors that Danni saw in the Immortal Temple refer to, "Go north , You must go south. To reach the west, you must go east. If you want to go forward, you must go back. If you want to be bright, you must pass through the shadows. The masked woman, who is this woman? Where did it come from?), what is the secret of Yasha’s Shadow Land, etc. Everything points to the final battle, which is another "long night". This winter, It will be longer and more terrifying than all previous winters. Only the rebirth of Azor Yahai can save mankind. This is the song of ice and fire, and the most important and only true main thread is the fateful contest between humans and ghosts. What kind of power struggle, what kind of family, are insignificant supporting roles in the rise and fall of human beings and ghosts. This is epic. Therefore, the third episode of the eighth season turned all the above into a joke, turned into a shit, let the details of the hundreds of thousands of words in the book lay the foundation for dozens of episodes in the previous seasons, Let this most legendary epic mainline vanish into nothingness. So what is the purpose of the three-eyed crow? What is Snow's resurrection for? What did Melisandre say for? What is the purpose of the red comet in the first season? What is the reason for the babbles in the witch who deceived Dany in the first season? What is the appearance of the masked woman? What is the purpose of the wolf dream? What does the ghost want a newborn baby boy for? What is the purpose of the prince in the prophecy that Rega would rather subdue the country? What is the emergence of Xuecheng? What is the Lord of Light for? What's the purpose of the front bedding in all these dramas? ? ! I was so powerless that I didn't know what to say. At first it was furious, but then there was only endless sorrow, and even wanted to cry, because the things I loved for so many years were destroyed like this. In fact, it has started to go downhill since the fifth season, but I can accept it. Even if the running account is like that in the seventh season, I can bear it, because I know that the line that inherits the core of ice and fire has not ended yet, and other things are ruined. Just delete it, as long as it is still there, I will stick to it. Until now, this ending, what can I say, this ending is a head-on for all those who really love ice and fire, it is really just being fed shit by the screenwriter. Some fans have begun to wash the ground, calling it a "Game of Thrones" rather than a song of ice and fire. Okay, let's talk about power struggles. What I am talking about below are the plots and characters that appear in the play. I guess the Scrubbing Party doesn’t know, who are the most senior players in Game of Thrones? Cersei's stupid corner that is only worthy of a pawn, don't say it, it's shameful. Those who disturbed the situation and caused the lion-wolf antagonism to set off a battle of kings, secretly strategizing and planning revenge, all appeared in the first few seasons of the play, and the details are also available, but they collapsed in the next few seasons. I was deleted, can you give me a name? I know that Cersei is ashamed to say that others "only deserve to watch domestic dramas." This level of tactics is really not as good as domestic dramas, thank you. Should have been the smartest, the main role played by the strategy, now there is only one Sansa (and how Sansa can do well among the princes, fight monsters and upgrade to become the top strategy master's scenes have all been deleted, why, because my dear screenwriter I sent her to Xiao Pei Pi to rape, and then suddenly IQ sublimated after the rape), all the staff except for awkward chat is awkward chat, the top strategists either died inexplicably, or simply disappeared in the next few seasons, the finale is There are so few characters whose political IQ is 0 (Long Ma, Xue Nuo) or even negative (Cersei), and they are ashamed to say that they are called "Game of Thrones". (The little devil himself is also one of the clever people. As a result, I won’t repeat what he looks like in the play.) Yes, this is what the screenwriter thought. It doesn't matter, anyway, the mobs will still have no brain support. No matter how bad they are, they must be washed away. Hurry up and take advantage of the harvest of IQ taxes in the last season. Although the production level of this drama is still superb, the actors and producers are very dedicated, but if there is no reversal in the later period (it is estimated that it is difficult to have), I will not change this point, because it is coerced by capital and has no logic. And the brain only knows the special effects and gimmicks to make money, perfuse the audience, and deceive the true love party for the last season, only worth one star. Playhouses are better than this. (The little devil himself is also one of the clever people. As a result, I won’t repeat what he looks like in the play.) Yes, this is what the screenwriter thought. It doesn't matter, anyway, the mobs will still have no brain support. No matter how bad they are, they must be washed away. Hurry up and take advantage of the harvest of IQ taxes in the last season. Although the production level of this drama is still superb, the actors and producers are very dedicated, but if there is no reversal in the later period (it is estimated that it is difficult to have), I will not change this point, because it is coerced by capital and has no logic. And the brain only knows the special effects and gimmicks to make money, perfuse the audience, and deceive the true love party for the last season, only worth one star. Playhouses are better than this. (The little devil himself is also one of the clever people. As a result, I won’t repeat what he looks like in the play.) Yes, this is what the screenwriter thought. It doesn't matter, anyway, the mobs will still have no brain support. No matter how bad they are, they must be washed away. Hurry up and take advantage of the harvest of IQ taxes in the last season. Although the production level of this drama is still superb, the actors and producers are very dedicated, but if there is no reversal in the later period (it is estimated that it is difficult to have), I will not change this point, because it is coerced by capital and has no logic. And the brain only knows the special effects and gimmicks to make money, perfuse the audience, and deceive the true love party for the last season, only worth one star.

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Extended Reading
  • Lolita 2022-03-25 09:01:08

    I don't even watch Tencent's abridged version. . . . I hold back. . I. . . . . I. . hold back

  • Bobby 2022-04-24 07:01:06

    As soon as the third episode of Season 8 came out, I knew the storyline of A Song of Ice and Fire was really ruined. With a budget of 8 million per episode, I would rather spend one extra frame of special effects than study the story line. In the previous seasons, the branch lines were hacked and twisted in one place forcibly, but the line of the Night King accounted for half of the title of "Ice" and "Fire", and it ended so scribbly. It can only be said that it is a pity that Game of Thrones could have become an epic masterpiece with all kinds of details, but now it has become such an anticlimactic look. If the show wasn't Game of Thrones but something else, I'd happily give it five stars. But it was Game of Thrones, and at some point it made me fantasize about that extreme possibility. How much love hurts. Anyway, I won't brush it again, lest I feel heartache when I think of it beyond recognition.

Winterfell quotes

  • Jon Snow: I wasn't a king.

    Samwell Tarly: But you were; you've always been.

  • Tyrion Lannister: The last time we spoke was at Joffrey's wedding. Miserable affair.

    Sansa Stark: It had its moments.