There is no god in love

Rosella 2021-10-20 17:38:19

#下影评对爱在三部曲都有强锐透

#Although this is indeed a romantic love movie, in fact we can say that this movie is not essentially about telling a love story, but about The relationship between people, but the director chose love as the carrier.
Of course, he has no other choice, because love is the most complex and profound feeling between people, so we can see that love appears in almost every literary film and television work. Only the relationship between people is It is worthy of repeated discussion and analysis. Some authors are obsessed with macro-narratives. In fact, this is stupid.

The biggest feature of this movie is that it is filled with a lot of dialogue and a very short time node. They met on the train and spent a pleasant night. When the dawn came, the story ended.
There is no complicated and overly dramatic plot. The character and level of the characters are all presented through dialogue, because only in this way can the relationship between the characters be dug deep enough to explain what the essence of love is, even though it also costs. Time for three movies.

It is difficult for me to comment on the three films completely separately because there are too many connections and metaphors outside the dialogue. Many dialogues that appeared in the first book were later completely projected into the third book and became the third book. The plot, relatively speaking, the second book is more independent as the climax of the entire trilogy.

Although the scene has been simplified, all the elements in the love story are there. First of all, the most important thing is-chance encounter.
At the beginning of all love stories, the heroes and heroines basically meet for the first time in the form of chance encounters. They either ran into the corner, took the wrong baggage, or recognized the wrong person. In short, there is a special and pleasant surprise. It means (that is, unusual). On the contrary, you rarely see the hero and heroine meet for the first time because of a blind date. If this is the case, it is not sacred, and it will not make people feel destined, but destined to this feeling It is magical, making people feel that everything is an arrangement of fate, so love begins.
If it is not mysterious and not sacred, how can it be love if it makes you feel that it is not destined?
So chance encounters are very important.

But is all love really an arrangement of fate? Did God decide to let you meet, and then to let you love each other?
To simplify this question, is there a god in love?

In this movie, the hero and the heroine answered this question separately, but the answer was no.
If you accept that gods are a metaphor here, then all the religious topics and churches that have appeared are actually metaphors.
You can find that every time their relationship has progressed, they will talk about religion and God, and will re-emphasize it every time. They are not religious, and the subsequent dialogue is a metaphor.

So now let’s start with this movie.
The beginning of the story happened on a comfortable train that would stop in Vienna halfway. A couple who spoke German were arguing.
The husband was reading the newspaper, and his wife accused him of reading the newspaper. They then quarreled fiercely and loudly on the topic of having an affair in the marriage. After that, the wife got angry and left, and the husband chased him out. After a while, they came back.
And in the third part of "Love Before Midnight", the last part of the story, in the Greek hotel, Jesse and Celine also accused each other of infidelity and affair in the quarrel, then Celine slammed the door, but after a while she went out again. came back.

Basically, the imagination and worries about marriage and the long life in the first part will appear in the third part. The third book is about the essence of love in the long married life after the initial romance fades.

Because the German-speaking couple was noisy, Celine, who was reading, changed her seat to Jesse who was also reading, and the encounter began.
Their first conversation was about whether the couple could not stand each other in a long marriage. Celine said a theory and concluded that after years of getting along, the couple will deliberately ignore each other, Jesee said, this is natural Laws, so that they can join hands to grow old, lest they kill each other.
At the very beginning of the meeting, they viewed the marriage relationship in this way.

Correspondingly, in the third part, Celine came back after slammed the door, the same as accusing Jesee of ignoring her sacrifice over the years, not understanding her guilt and guilt as a mother, and attributed all the mistakes to her head. On the floor, Jesse was lying on the sofa, not facing Celine, and wanted to ignore and end this conversation, so he corrected the insignificant mistake in Celine's words, not the toaster but the oven.

And another interesting point is that if we want to answer the question of whether there is a god in love, we must go back to the encounter, because the encounter gives people the illusion that this is fate, but is it really a chance encounter?
In a restaurant in Vienna, they played a game in which they pretended to call their friends to tell the truth.
When it was Jesse's turn to call, he revealed a concern that a smart person like Celine might not love him until he knows him enough. (At the beginning of love, we always think very far away. They only have one night).
Celine pretended to be his friend and replied, "Besides, she was going to sit next to you. I believe she was intentional. We men are too stupid and don't know women at all." With

this, the restaurant scene ended. Yes, but as for her just saying that to comfort Jesse or is it really intentional? There are a few points to prove that Celine is indeed deliberate.
On the train, Celine's original intention of changing seats should be to facilitate reading, but when Jesse asked her, do you know what they are arguing about?
Celine said, I'm sorry, my German is not good.

There was a brief silence here, because the conversation was over. As tourists who met by the water, they should have continued to read the books separately, but Celine glanced at Jesse and said, "Have you heard of it? The couple have been together for a long time. , You will lose the ability to listen to the other party.” Then he added a theory about treble and bass.
This was obviously a hit-up. They had nothing to talk about, and Celine offered a topic to make the conversation continue.
In the early days of love, the relationship is very fragile. There is no connection between the two parties and the relationship can be interrupted at any time. Therefore, it is very important to find topics to keep the dialogue uninterrupted. Dialogue can make the other party understand you. Only when you understand each other can you be connected, and the various relationships between people can be unfolded because of this.
So in the following episodes, they kept looking for various ways to make the dialogue uninterrupted. Once the interruption, their still fragile relationship ended.

Another inconspicuous evidence is on the lawn. Celine said that the moment she got off the train, she decided to sleep with Jesse. This can be reversed to a certain extent, because she deliberately sat next to Jesse at the beginning, so she Will make such a determination.

So in other words, this chance encounter is not destined, or even chance encounter. When it comes to this, some people will say, but no matter if they can encounter this incident on the train, it is still destined. This Some people always believe that love is destined to happen.
But in the second part of "Love at Sunset", Celine said a paragraph, to the effect that the meaning is given by ourselves when we go back to the past.
The meaning of a thing cannot exist independently. A thing has different meanings to different people. This proves that the meaning is given by man. We are keen to go back to the past and give meaning repeatedly.
As Jesse did in her book, Celine said, that's too romantic, it's not me.

It was actually an ordinary encounter. It was originally supposed to be interrupted after a simple conversation. Like any mere touch-up, it ended quickly and was quickly forgotten. Celine didn’t want this, so she created a topic. After that, Jesse didn’t want to say goodbye to Celine. , Pulled her off the train.
So it is not fate that gave them love, love is actually created by them, although they cannot ignore the magic power of the fantasy of fate.

I said at the beginning that all religious topics are metaphors.
After arriving in Vienna, they visited a Gothic church (Votif Church). The churches in this and the second part are beautiful Gothic churches (the second part is Notre Dame de Paris). Corresponding to the theme of romantic love fantasy that has faded away in the third part, the beautiful church has also become a plain religious building.
Gothic style architecture is characterized by high, sharp, and straight. All of this is to create a sense of mystery. The beginning of love is always accompanied by a sense of mystery. If you fully understand a person, you may find that he does not match your imagination. It's the same, isn't love just such a hazy feeling, full of self-projection and passionate fantasy.

Even though they were not believers, they still went in and were in awe.
Celine said that although I reject most religious things, I still don’t feel that people who come here are lost, painful, guilt...
In the second part, Celine clearly expressed that she does not believe in any religion, which means that she does not believe in any religion. God, but she is still in awe in the church (compare her disrespect to God in the third book, and you can see the change in her attitude towards love)
Jesse is basically the same, not believing, but there is awe.

Corresponding to love, that is, there is no god in love, and it is not fate that allows them to meet. This mysterious sense of fate is the meaning they give to them again and again when they remember, so that encounter becomes more romantic and romantic in the memory. Full of decisiveness.
Although intellectually knows that it is not an encounter arranged by God, once we encounter such a thing, we will always unconsciously attribute it to a chance encounter of fate, feeling the magic of fate. Isn't this love?
Love can make people dizzy.

This means that although you do not believe (reason and reality), you are still full of awe in church (when love occurs) (believe again).

The male protagonist and the female father have two very clear explanations of this point of view.
First of all, Jesse told a very abrupt story in the church. He said, I’m not very good here, but he still said, a story about a homeless man his friend met. The homeless man answered the question about believing in God. The homeless man thought for a while and said, believe, so the friend said that he answered incorrectly and drove away.
It sounds like a prank, and it appears abruptly, without any context, but if you understand this story as a metaphor about love, it will be easy to understand.

Celine later gave a more clear explanation:
I believe that if there is a god in the world, he will not be between us. It is not you or me, but the land between us. If there is something in the world This kind of magic, he must be born out of continuous attempts to communicate and understand.

The essence of love is a complex relationship between people. The connection between people depends on continuous communication and understanding.
However, we are willing to project these as an illusion, looking back at history to give chance encounters a decisive meaning, shaping our own desires into destiny arrangements, putting on a romantic cloak, and even if love arises, love is a closed loop in the early stage ( To a certain degree).

At this point, the story has been explored clearly, the origin of love, the task of the first movie has been completed.

The rest of the passages, such as the Gypsy fortune-telling section, actually set the stage for the third part. The Gypsy said that Celine is an adventurer, explorer, interested in female power, and the potential creativity of women. You To become this kind of person, you need to get rid of your own bad life. Only by finding the peace in your heart can you find the right connection with others.
This passage has been able to summarize the plot of the second half of "Love Before Midnight".

After the gypsy fortune-telling was over, Celine happily paid the money and was pleasantly surprised to tell Jesse that she was right.
But Jesse disagrees. He thinks Celine believes in Gypsies because the Gypsies say she loves to listen, and he dismisses it a little.
In other words, Celine is happy because it is what she wants to be a powerful and ambitious woman (she emphasized this point in the later dialogue, full of ambition, becoming a more competitive person, etc.), while Jesse disdain Gu, it wasn't fortune-telling aimed at crumbs Gypsies, but the counterpart to Celine, he did not agree with these words.
And this is the unavoidable sharpest contradiction that they have produced in the later long married life.

Later, in their conversation, Celine said, I don’t think women really want to destroy men. Even if they do, they won’t succeed. I believe that it is men who are destroying women.
Jesse: In everything, couples will always discuss this topic.
Celine: But no one can draw a conclusion.
In the third part, this is the end at the end, and their argument has no result.

Later, there was a passage in which the tramp in Vienna was begging in disguise by writing poetry. Jesse said he didn't like this, but Celine thought it was quite romantic.
Although, in church, Celine said that she felt like a memory of her grandmother or something, and Jesse said that it was so strange, I often thought I was still 13 years old.
But in fact, their sophistication and innocence will be interlaced in different places. This is the more elusive point in the relationship between people, and the converse is also a fascinating point.

The second half of the poem is like this:
Lodged in life

Like branches in the river

Flowing downstream, caught in the current

I carry you

you carry me

That's how it could be

Don't you know me? Don't you know me by now ?

This part of the poem actually abstractly describes the content of the second book "Love at dusk and sunset", especially the phrase I carry you, you carry me. The
verse describes the magic of love, and the second part mainly elaborates It is through the magic of love to show the law of love.

Generally speaking, this movie expounds the source of love, a projected illusion about destiny, and explains it through metaphors. In fact, destiny does not exist, and the meaning of destiny is given by oneself.
But if you don't say it thoroughly, if you say it thoroughly, the story will be unsightly.

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Extended Reading
  • Holden 2022-03-25 09:01:05

    I ran to find this paragraph in Zhang Dinghao's "Meet the Gentleman" that I really like: They were originally "two love, two don't know", but now they see it, they naturally want to "meet two blind dates." The book in Zou Yang’s prison in the Han dynasty quoted the ancient proverb of "the same as before It means the same thing, and I haven't said enough yet.

  • Jermain 2022-04-24 07:01:02

    Love affirms a sentence in this series: it starts with appearance, respects talent, suits character, lasts for kindness, and finally character. Communication between men and women is really important. The depth of communication determines whether these two people can finally get together.

Before Sunrise quotes

  • Jesse: You know what's the worst thing about somebody breaking up with you? It's when you remember how little you thought about the people you broke up with and you realize that is how little they're thinking of you. You know, you'd like to think you're both in all this pain but they're just like "Hey, I'm glad you're gone".

  • Jesse: There's these breeds of monkeys, right, and all they do is have sex, all the time, you know? And they turn out to be the least violent, the most peaceful, the most happy, you know? So maybe fooling around isn't so bad.

    Celine: Are you talking about monkeys?

    Jesse: Yes I'm talking about monkeys.

    Celine: Ah, I thought so...