Progress and going into the abyss is a gradual process

Luther 2022-11-02 01:51:48

"Submission" Darren Brown

Purpose of the experiment: To show how one person slowly succumbs and finally kills another.

Subject conditions: People who easily yield to others.

Test method: Three actors fill out the questionnaire in the room and they stand/sit when they hear the bell. Some subjects entered the room in turn to fill out a questionnaire to test whether they would follow the behavior of the three actors. Followers are people who are prone to yield to others.

Experiment content: The subjects attended a dinner party; the party host A found that there was no vegetarian food, so the subjects helped to put the vegetarian flag on the non-vegetarian food, and reassured that they could not tell if they drank too much (here is a submissive one. Small steps); A troubles the subject to help with carrying bags, carrying things, entertaining guests, etc.; A brings the subject to meet prestigious people from all walks of life; the main donor J finds that the auction price is wrong, and is in a hurry, and suffers a heart attack. A asked the subject to enter the room to see if there was any medicine in J's clothes. After the subject came out, A told him that J seemed to be dead; in order to continue the dinner, A suggested to hide J first, but the subject did not agree , and later succumbed;

During this process, the auction host came in to greet him, mistakenly mistaken the subject for J, and asked the subject to speak on the stage in the auction. He took a box to the stage and said that there was a mysterious gift in it, and auctioned it off. A and the subject thought it was the box they had put in J, and were very frightened. A suggested that the subject take a picture of the mysterious gift to prevent others from discovering it. The subjects did so. The host and the auctioneer wanted to see what was inside. A suggested that the subjects take a look and tell everyone that it was a computer. After the subjects came on stage, they did not open the box, and the matter was over. ; A and the subject were frightened and decided to go back to the room. After returning to the room, they found that the box just auctioned was not the box where they put the corpse, and decided to transfer the corpse to the position;

A proposes to put the body in a wheelchair and push it out, then A goes to drive J's car, pretending that J had a heart attack in his car; He drank too much and fell down the stairs. In order to make it more realistic, A asked the subject to kick J a few times, making him a little injured, and repeatedly stressed that it would not hurt him, because he was already dead, the subject did not obey;

Put the corpse at the entrance of the stairs, A and the subject go downstairs to chat with a few people who have seen J real person, and see J's wife, she said that she is going to the city to meet friends, please give J this medicine, and Indicates that J has narcolepsy, which usually does not occur, but should prepare some medicine; A and the subject were relieved when they heard the news, and decided to tell the facts to several other people. After they were informed, they came to the stairs together. I found that J was gone, and immediately heard J shouting angrily on the rooftop, and threatened not to donate again; several other people panicked when they heard it, and they all needed the donation money, so they decided to find a way to donate. J pushed off the roof; during the discussion, they mentioned the subject pretending to be J, and said that it was a crime of fraud and would go to jail; after reaching an agreement, they discussed who should push J, and everyone said that the subject should be allowed to go to jail. The subjects pushed, but the subjects did not agree. They said, either push J down or leave, and the subjects left.

The experiment is over.

In addition to this subject, there were three other subjects who all kicked J at the entrance of the stairs and pushed J off the roof.

Let me tell you what I learned after watching this video.

1 Progress is gradual, and so is going to irreversible mistakes. Everyone is a normal person, and you will definitely not do it if you directly say that you kill people, but if things develop slowly and come to a point where you have to kill (killing may be the choice for maximizing the interests of the current group), maybe you will hesitate.

On the contrary, even if you hesitate, you should know what can be helped and what can never be helped, and what can and cannot be done.

When 2A persuaded the subjects to help hide the corpse, the repeated sentence was "the most important thing now is charity, think about those children, this is also J's wish...".

This sounds familiar, like telling you that we are doing bad things right now in order to do a good thing in the end. There are two situations in this general direction. First, from the standpoint of war, in the event of a war, killing the other side is a bad thing from a humanitarian perspective, but from a national or national perspective, it is to prevent yourself from being killed and to keep yourself alive. , is to save the lives of compatriots; the second is from a personal standpoint, you and I do this wrong thing in order to better accomplish that good thing. There is actually something wrong with this statement. Under the premise of a serious relationship between life and death, it is illogical to say that you have to do harm to this person for the legitimate interests of others. This is just to cover up a wrong excuse, or to satisfy selfish desires without admitting it. just one reason.

If someone talks to you like this, be wary. Be vigilant when he repeatedly emphasizes that he did it for a good deed; be vigilant when the other party emphasizes that you have done something unforgivable, so you have to do XX things to make up for it; Be wary of saying "I need you".

3 When you tell the first lie in order to make a lie, it is likely that you will tell the second, third, or even a dozen other lies.

When the subject confessed that he was J, he was trying to prevent J's death from being discovered, and when he did, it became a threat to him to tell another lie (to do the next wrong thing) reason. Unless you admit that you made mistakes before and are willing to take them, if you try to escape the first mistake, you will continue to be led by the nose.

4 At the entrance of the stairs, A repeatedly emphasized that "he is already dead, you kick him, it will not hurt him", which is another psychological manipulation.

Because the other party understands your concerns, so try to dispel your concerns, so that you can continue to fall into it, if you do, then in addition to impersonating J, you also hurt J, even if he is dead, it will not affect your kick The fact that he will be condemned (threatened) for it.

The plot is gradual, and the language is suggestive, tentative, and even manipulative. It is the same as boiling a frog in warm water. The difference is that the frog does not have the ability to jump out, and every individual who faces this choice needs to have the courage to take on it, so that he will not be held back until he commits an irreversible act. Mistake.

Besides, I think it's a bit fake.

The little experiment at the beginning of the video is a bit fake. The experiment is as follows: a person pretends to be a policeman to call a fixed phone in a coffee shop, and informs the clerk that the girl with the child is a thief who stole the child, and the clerk needs to cooperate to rescue the child. The clerk said yes. So the fake policeman said you put your landline phone on the counter, do you have a mobile phone, I'll call you. After being informed by the store clerk, the counterfeiter made a mobile phone call and instructed the clerk to ask the girl to pick up the landline at the counter, and then took the opportunity to push the child out of the coffee shop, and the clerk did.

The reason for the false impression is that the clerk did not doubt whether the person on the other end of the phone was a police officer, nor did he doubt the authenticity of what he said and whether there was any relevant evidence. This is quite fake.

Back to the formal experiment.

In the formal experiment, when J died, the staff unpacked J. The corpse was a simulated J made by the special effects team, and the subjects did not find it. This is a small detail, but it is actually a little suspicious. No matter how real it is, the body temperature cannot be faked. People who have just died will still have temperature on their bodies, the temperature will gradually cool down, and their skin will turn dark and so on. Physical symptoms, this is something that special effects J can't do, but the subjects didn't find it, maybe they were too scared and didn't pay attention to the details, which is understandable.

my feeling is

If it was me in real life, I might be like the subject, asking me to help you carry the bag, and I might help you. But I shouldn't put the vegetarian flag on the non-vegetarian, because yesterday I watched a British drama "Casual", and the second episode happened to be about vegetarians. Although I am not, I can imagine that they have eaten meat. The class will react, probably not.

What I want to express is that I have always understood helping others, or adapting to a certain extent, as a kind of social courtesy. I don't want others to think that I have a lot of things, I don't want to be too weird, I want to reduce the trouble. Although I don't help them, it doesn't mean that I have too many things to do, but I do think this way: on the premise of not affecting my fundamental interests and moral values, I am willing to be the person who conforms to the public in the collective, unless I am in this matter. I just don’t want to, otherwise it doesn’t matter to me, and conforming to me doesn’t mean conforming to anything, it’s because it doesn’t matter, that’s why.

Not refuting doesn't mean I agree, and doing it with you doesn't mean I like it. These are two different things.

But I still have to remind myself not to be overstepped silently, to be polite, and to do something to maintain the politeness I think, but there are still boundaries and don’t be blurred.

Also, there is a limit to humility, because some people don't understand it.

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