Whether the entity is nothing, whether the forgetting disappears - see "Lain" ("Lin Yin")

Johnny 2022-03-25 08:01:01

Looking at it again in 2021, it means that there are indeed many knowledge points in 2006 that I did not understand, but it is not all wrong. As for the tougher long reviews in the front row, this is a supplement from the perspective of soft sci-fi. After all, I personally think that no matter how hard sci-fi is ultimately concerned with human beings. Moreover, this animation itself is an experiment. The rich details and minimal dialogues are intended to make the work open and carry more understanding, association and imagination.

When I rewatched it, I had a question, and I didn't see an answer in any of the comments: Why does Lingyin need a body? One explanation is that Lingyin's body was man-made (whether genetically engineered or otherwise), but wouldn't it be superfluous to make her a body first, and then finally ask her to abandon it? However, this explanation is the most likely, because Lingyin in the game work created a robot father for herself because her father ran away from home and craved fatherly love - the logic in the game is logical. However, in the animation, it is necessary to give a software body, let her grow up in a fake family, and finally ask her to abandon the body. What role does the body play in this? I can't figure it out. The second explanation is that Lingyin does not have a body, she just exists in people's memories, her parents and sisters are just programs, and Lingyin in the eyes of her classmates is just a hologram. The problem with this interpretation is: first, there is no so-called distinction between false and real Lingyin in many comments; secondly, the part at the end where Alice makes Lingyin feel her heartbeat is meaningless. I personally prefer the third explanation, but this one is the cruelest: Lingyin is a real little girl with software implanted in her brain in order to use her unconscious realm to connect to the unconsciousness of others. Under this explanation, Lingyin's self-awareness before implanting the software and after implanting the software will produce different personalities in different fields, and will also appear and transform in one body at the same time. The disappearance of Lingyin at the end can also be explained that everyone can actually see Lingyin's body, but they don't know her. Because there is no memory of her, she does not exist, and it is relevant. In the end, Alice was able to see Reine's body. But there is still a question, why did Alice grow up in the end, but Reine didn't. I haven't seen the perfect answer yet, looking forward to the expert.

2021 short comment: The works of 1998 will be much easier to understand in 2021. However, even compared to the current reality, the world of "Lingyin" is still too far ahead. The author seems to have no interest in artificial intelligence that is completely different from humans, and more concerned with humans themselves. Lingyin, the depths of this little girl's body is not artificial intelligence, but the collective consciousness of mankind. By manipulating Lingyin, you can manipulate human beings: tamper with memory, rewrite history, and even decide the future. In contrast, at the moment, human chips, consciousness immortality... I am afraid that these experiments are quietly going on, and the huge power of big data has already appeared. At the beginning of the popularization of the Internet, the author has been sensitively aware of the unavoidable dangerous tendency of human beings when using this tool, and finally attributed the answer to the question of free will, the eternal proposition of human beings.

Transfer: "Lain - Experimental Hard Science Fiction Animation "Lin Yin", the most realistic thinking about human evolution from the virtual world (Part 1) "

"Lain - Experimental hard sci-fi animation "Lin Yin", the most realistic thinking about human evolution from the virtual world (Part 2)"


breathe END I hardly buy cartoons, but that doesn't mean I don't like them. Regardless, quite a few are worth the time. Because brushes can express beauty that cannot be expressed in the real world. The only cartoon I have ever bought is a collection of works by a Russian animation master Petrov. Two of them were adapted from Hemingway's novels: "The Old Man in the Sea" and "The Shepherd Who Planted Trees". The emotion in it can still be felt to this day. When talking about anime, most people think of Japan. Because anime has become an indispensable and considerable part of Japanese culture. But I feel that maybe too much, too few boutiques. So how does it count as a masterpiece? I think there are only two points: the picture and the idea. The latter is undoubtedly the spiritual pillar of the whole work and is the most important part. I said too few boutiques, and that's what I meant. Another point is that there are very few Japanese cartoons that I am deeply attracted to from beginning to end. The first few episodes are often good, but in the end, the feeling is often that they try to exaggerate the plot and ignore or even forget what the center is (I think the typical one is "The Refinement of Gang"). Maybe I haven’t watched too many cartoons, so so far, the only ones that have made me feel good endings are “Kurawu” (“Phantom Memory”) and “Lain” (“Rin Tone”), which is affecting my eagerness to buy at this moment. "). The process of watching "Lain" was a bit tortuous. This is a movie that if I don't choose (my good friend collects cartoons, I often choose for her. Because our tastes are similar, we both like unpopular ones. Or, it should be special.), it seems to be on the table forever. cartoons that are there. For the first time, out of curiosity, I encouraged my classmates to take them home, and I was deeply attracted by the melody of the theme song. And then there's the opening, which feels so special—I can't describe it, but metaphorically: it's like someone who's tired of Hollywood movies suddenly sees a Kislowski movie on the screen—refreshing. And just when I was deeply interested in "Lain" step by step, the pirated disc gave me a powerful color for the first time. Helpless, can only give up. For a long time, I can only keep this light concern in my heart, because there are too few such films. Finally, a year ago, we found it again. It's a coincidence! ...Unfortunately, there is no money...the second time to give up. And this time, after so long, it still lay there quietly, just with some more "wrinkles" and "vicissitudes". Fortunately, I didn't miss it this time. So much nonsense...just to show my affection. But it seems to be superfluous... I searched for it on the Internet, Most of the articles that read Lain are talking about "being" - who am I? Why do I exist? Where do I exist? And maybe I don't know much about the word "existence", so it seems to me to be an overly "mysterious" word. But then again, "Lain" itself is very "mysterious". So most people are just scratching their heads with it. Maybe it is because there are too few people who say it, the content is too simple, and it is really worth talking about, so I decided to try - no, it should be said to challenge and organize my understanding. Each episode opens with the same image, followed by a symbolic line. Perhaps this is the clue to the whole film, like a series of bold-faced questions in Susan Sontag's short story "Ask in the Heart," introduced by Zero Reading. And I'm just not too impressed with this series of lines. So I can only sort out my own thoughts - let me try to sort it out from another angle: from the beginning of indifference, to loneliness, to being attracted by connection, to needing connection, to deep connection, to addicted to connection, From being dependent on connection, to thinking that you don't need substance, to losing substance, back to loneliness, to pain, to awakening, to rebirth. The tool of contact is the network. At first glance, "Lain" seems to be concerned about the crisis in the relationship between people in the Internet age, but I think a closer look, this is not caused by the Internet, but precisely by ourselves. Lingyin's father once said, "In this era, people need to be connected." Lingyin herself said, "Wherever you go, there is always connection between people." But why? Lingyin still feels lonely? Because there is only contact, no communication. Contact and communication are different, not just passively active, but in their manner, their content, and their essence. In the film, people often ignore or even completely forget the communication with the people around them while they are loyal to the communication with the Internet. Thus, the dreaded question arises - with the network, what else is needed? Maybe those who are addicted will feel that they don't need anything? The Internet and reality are different. Even if there is an agreement, it is something that can be broken. One subtle symbol change and everything changed. The beauty and horror of the Internet lies precisely in its infinite freedom. And a large part of this infinite freedom comes from the uncertainty of "substance" or even the need for "substance". In the film, a so-called "god" (Yingri Zhengmei) is a soul who abandoned the entity, wandering in the network, bewildering people who are addicted to it one after another, causing them to abandon the "entity" and belong to him. Sifang Tian Qiansha is one of them. Lingyin asked, "But, why do you want to die?" Sifang Tian Qiansa replied, "Because there is a God here." Why do you believe in God? Because I don't know what to believe; because I don't believe in myself. Lingyin began to be interested in the Internet, or contact, and the fuse was a letter from Sifang Tian Chisa - a letter from a deceased. I think half comes from curiosity and the other half comes from having a loneliness-induced longing for connection. In other words, due to loneliness, dissatisfaction with the real world leads to curiosity about another world—that is, the world of death. And so far, the only medium that can link Reine and the world of death is the Internet - Reine communicates with Sifang Tian Qiansa through the Internet. After that, a series of events led Lingyin to the depths of the network. The exploration of "Children's Potential Potential Test" allowed Lingyin to fully appreciate the power that the Internet can give her. Then she found herself becoming more and more powerful in the network - such as perfecting the "network protocol". Another example is that the "Samurai" group created another Reine, which endangered her normal life. In order to save her life, Lingyin chose to find and expose members of the "Samurai" group through the Internet, rewrite the "collective consciousness" through the Internet, that is, the human memory system, and so on. Lingyin is getting deeper and deeper into the network, and has reached the stage of dependence. In the meantime, Lingyin hated another fictitious Lingyin on the Internet who did all kinds of despicable behaviors. I think what I'm talking about here is the inner struggle that we often encounter. Although the other Lingyin in the film is a fictional one, I think this fictional Lingyin can be regarded as the other side of Lingyin's heart, the dark side of the subconscious. It's like there are often two competing "Is" in people's hearts. Due to the unlimited freedom of the online world, Lingyin's desire for information will become stronger and stronger. With her unique network talent (Lingyin finds that she can surf the Internet unimpeded even to the point where she can surf the Internet without using tools such as computers, And I think this is also a trap of "God".), there will inevitably be a desire to sin and snoop. What is the trade-off between desire and a realistic sense of morality? Lingyin was at a loss. On the one hand, I hate the dark side, and on the other hand, I am unconsciously attracted to it. Even while resisting another Reine, she did whatever she could to do the same despicable thing as another Reine - remember that shocking word - Reine is a voyeur. So Lingyin chose to give up and chose not to believe in anyone, not even herself - "I only believe in God." I think, this is an escape. Thinking about it now, since the death of Tian Qiansha in Sifang, "God" began to set up a series of traps, waiting for Lingyin to step by step, the more sink deeper. When the time was right, after Reine said "I only believe in God", "God" appeared cunningly. He said, you have always belonged to the network, you were born in the network world at all. You are just a software, a program. You don't need a body, because only in the online world you have infinite power, and the network doesn't need a body. Abandon the body, it's just your burden... I don't know what made Reine not choose to "abandon the body" like Sifang Tian Chisa. Maybe she still has some doubts about it, maybe she doesn't need to abandon her body at all. She connected the data cable to herself and made her brain work like software. Don't eat or drink, anyway, all this means nothing to her, even if the body does not have any energy and dies, it will not have any effect on her. I think Lingyin was completely bewildered, or maybe she didn't want to wake up again. Connect the data cable to yourself and make yourself act like software - a human machine, right? In today's fast-paced life, efficiency has become so important. Humans are relying more and more on machinery, so as to create more perfect machinery, can't wait to become a machinery themselves? I remember the teacher once said that the waiter of a famous fast food restaurant was only allowed to do three actions when getting on and off the car to save time and improve efficiency. It's just that while the efficiency is improved, are people still people? Or maybe, Reine is luckier than Chisa Sifangtian because of the existence of Alice. Going a step further, the only thing Reine is sober is that she has never forgotten Alice, and this may be the key to the different fates of Reine and Sifang Tian Qiansa. Alice, in my opinion, symbolizes that between flesh and blood people, without any formal connection, feelings can naturally arise and the possibility of spiritual communication can be established. Reine finally realizes that only Alice is her true friend. Only you, she said, can communicate without any connection. On the one hand, Lingyin eliminated the memories in everyone's brains to protect her own reputation, and on the other hand, it was also to eliminate the secrets of Alice that existed in everyone's brains. And Reine doesn't want to erase Alice's memory, I think it's because of honesty - Reine doesn't want to deceive Alice. Through the Internet, she came to Alice tiredly and told her: "The person who disclosed your secret is not me." If you want to make Alice believe in herself by rewriting her memory, it is easy for Reine. But Lingyin hopes that Alice can really believe what she said, rather than by erasing her memory, because the erasure of memory can be said to be a kind of deception in disguise. Lingyin regards Alice as her true friend and is willing to meet frankly. i think allie Si did not live up to Lingyin's frankness. She came to Lingyin's house - undeniably out of genuine concern. Seeing that Lingyin's home was terrible, she cried - out of fear, but also out of worry and sadness. When she saw Lingyin covered with wires, she screamed, but she didn't run away—out of sheer disgust. Lingyin said, the body is useless, you and I are just a program, everyone is just a program. Alice smiled and stroked her hand to Lingyin's face, gently held her hand, put it on her chest, and said, although I don't understand what you are talking about, I have a gut feeling that you are wrong! Listen, the heart is beating! I think this should be the core of the film. No matter how far the network, or any form of connection, is developed, it cannot be compared with the communication between people's hearts. The communication of the mind requires not only the spirit, the soul, but also the body. Joy is conveyed by smiling; sorrow is conveyed by crying; fear is cold hands and feet; excitement is heartbeat. It can be said that only the body can convey human emotions, and only through the communication of emotions can it rise to the communication of the soul. All this can never be conveyed through cold, or even nihilistic, connections. At the same time, it reminds people not to forget their roots, and not to imagine that one day machines can replace humans. Later, Alice was severely stimulated in Reine's battle with "God" and had a nervous breakdown. Lingyin paid a huge price for her first awakening, even hurting her most important people. Lingyin chose to disappear. This time, it can be said that Reine abandoned her body as a last resort. In order to make Alice forget that everything went back to normal, she completely deleted herself from everyone's memory - Reine never existed. Seeing that she no longer sees herself in everyone's eyes, Lingyin doesn't know what world she exists in. Because no one remembers you, no one sees you, no one reacts to you because of you. So it's like a sentence we often joke: "When I am transparent." Yes, Reine becomes transparent. But Lingyin exists. She is struggling with another Reine who still haunts her. Another Lingyin said, isn't that what you want? No physical bondage, never existed in this world. Then why be sad? Lingyin said, stop talking! Another Lingyin continued to say, Lingyin can only watch and can't do anything! Lingyin is only one person! Maybe Lingyin wasn't human at all! hehe! Lingyin shouted, stop talking! Another Lingyin is still saying, if you don't like it, just start all over again! Anyway, it's not that it's not from scratch. Lingyin shouted loudly, "Don't say it anymore!" Another Lingyin said, you are me. Lingyin is firm To refute: I am not you, I am me, there is only one me. At this point, another Lingyin disappeared. Lingyin was surprised that she had deliberately wanted to eliminate the maker of another Lingyin, and tried every means to eliminate the memory of another Lingyin from other people's brains, but she was not eliminated in the end. It turned out that the reason was that another Lingyin had always existed in his heart. But now, without the other side in my heart, the other Lingyin disappeared naturally. Here I would like to mention: if you don't like it, just start all over again! Anyway, it's not that it's not from scratch. This sentence touched me a lot. I think Reine saw what happened to Alice and herself, and the price she paid, all because of abusing her powers on the internet. She deeply understands that although modifying memory is easy for her, it is a very dangerous thing, and the uncontrolled abuse of power will eventually lead to a tragic outcome. Therefore, Lingyin will not choose to "rewrite the memory and start from scratch" again. This is like what "Back to the Future" warns us, even if human beings have the ability to travel through time and space one day, they cannot be abused, otherwise it will be self-destruction. Nothing should be excessive, this is the law of nature. Suddenly Reine begins to feel an unprecedented loneliness, and while crying, her father appears. Lingyin said, Dad, in fact, I... Dad said, do you like everyone? Lingyin cried. Yes, she has always liked everyone. Once dissatisfied with the world due to loneliness, make it your own reason! It's me, I don't care about everyone, I don't care about the world, I don't care... Isn't this kind of loneliness caused by me? What about abandoning the body? Isn't it self-deceiving? At this point, the film is almost over. Lingyin returned to the world happily and found a chance to be reborn. The reunion with Alice was also very thought-provoking. In any case, what has been is what was. Maybe one day human beings can really rewrite memory, but this does not mean that human beings can rewrite history. No one remembers, just doesn't mean it didn't exist. So when Alice saw Reine, she was emotional. Maybe there is no memory, but there are feelings, because this relationship existed in the past, and it still exists now. A very perfect ending. The film uses a lot of language to mislead the audience, and the audience must, like Lingyin, go through the mazes, clear the layers of confusion, and find the truth. Because another Lingyin has always existed in his heart. But now, without the other side in my heart, the other Lingyin disappeared naturally. Here I would like to mention: if you don't like it, just start all over again! Anyway, it's not that it's not from scratch. This sentence touched me a lot. I think Reine saw what happened to Alice and herself, and the price she paid, all because of abusing her powers on the internet. She deeply understands that although modifying memory is easy for her, it is a very dangerous thing, and the uncontrolled abuse of power will eventually lead to a tragic outcome. Therefore, Lingyin will not choose to "rewrite the memory and start from scratch" again. This is like what "Back to the Future" warns us, even if human beings have the ability to travel through time and space one day, they cannot be abused, otherwise it will be self-destruction. Nothing should be excessive, this is the law of nature. Suddenly Reine begins to feel an unprecedented loneliness, and while crying, her father appears. Lingyin said, Dad, in fact, I... Dad said, do you like everyone? Lingyin cried. Yes, she has always liked everyone. Once dissatisfied with the world due to loneliness, make it your own reason! It's me, I don't care about everyone, I don't care about the world, I don't care... Isn't this kind of loneliness caused by me? What about abandoning the body? Isn't it self-deceiving? At this point, the film is almost over. Lingyin returned to the world happily and found a chance to be reborn. The reunion with Alice was also very thought-provoking. In any case, what has been is what was. Maybe one day human beings can really rewrite memory, but this does not mean that human beings can rewrite history. No one remembers, just doesn't mean it didn't exist. So when Alice saw Reine, she was emotional. Maybe there is no memory, but there are feelings, because this relationship existed in the past, and it still exists now. A very perfect ending. The film uses a lot of language to mislead the audience, and the audience must, like Lingyin, go through the mazes, clear the layers of confusion, and find the truth. Because another Lingyin has always existed in his heart. But now, without the other side in my heart, the other Lingyin disappeared naturally. Here I would like to mention: if you don't like it, just start all over again! Anyway, it's not that it's not from scratch. This sentence touched me a lot. I think Reine saw what happened to Alice and herself, and the price she paid, all because of abusing her powers on the internet. She deeply understands that although modifying memory is easy for her, it is a very dangerous thing, and the uncontrolled abuse of power will eventually lead to a tragic outcome. Therefore, Lingyin will not choose to "rewrite the memory and start from scratch" again. This is like what "Back to the Future" warns us, even if human beings have the ability to travel through time and space one day, they cannot be abused, otherwise it will be self-destruction. Nothing should be excessive, this is the law of nature. Suddenly Reine begins to feel an unprecedented loneliness, and while crying, her father appears. Lingyin said, Dad, in fact, I... Dad said, do you like everyone? Lingyin cried. Yes, she has always liked everyone. Once dissatisfied with the world due to loneliness, make it your own reason! It's me, I don't care about everyone, I don't care about the world, I don't care... Isn't this kind of loneliness caused by me? What about abandoning the body? Isn't it self-deceiving? At this point, the film is almost over. Lingyin returned to the world happily and found a chance to be reborn. The reunion with Alice was also very thought-provoking. In any case, what has been is what was. Maybe one day human beings can really rewrite memory, but this does not mean that human beings can rewrite history. No one remembers, just doesn't mean it didn't exist. So when Alice saw Reine, she was emotional. Maybe there is no memory, but there are feelings, because this relationship existed in the past, and it still exists now. A very perfect ending. The film uses a lot of language to mislead the audience, and the audience must, like Lingyin, go through the mazes, clear the layers of confusion, and find the truth. It will eventually lead to a tragic ending. Therefore, Lingyin will not choose to "rewrite the memory and start from scratch" again. This is like what "Back to the Future" warns us, even if human beings have the ability to travel through time and space one day, they cannot be abused, otherwise it will be self-destruction. Nothing should be excessive, this is the law of nature. Suddenly Reine begins to feel an unprecedented loneliness, and while crying, her father appears. Lingyin said, Dad, in fact, I... Dad said, do you like everyone? Lingyin cried. Yes, she has always liked everyone. Once dissatisfied with the world due to loneliness, make it your own reason! It's me, I don't care about everyone, I don't care about the world, I don't care... Isn't this kind of loneliness caused by me? What about abandoning the body? Isn't it self-deceiving? At this point, the film is almost over. Lingyin returned to the world happily and found a chance to be reborn. The reunion with Alice was also very thought-provoking. In any case, what has been is what was. Maybe one day human beings can really rewrite memory, but this does not mean that human beings can rewrite history. No one remembers, just doesn't mean it didn't exist. So when Alice saw Reine, she was emotional. Maybe there is no memory, but there are feelings, because this relationship existed in the past, and it still exists now. A very perfect ending. The film uses a lot of language to mislead the audience, and the audience must, like Lingyin, go through the mazes, clear the layers of confusion, and find the truth. It will eventually lead to a tragic ending. Therefore, Lingyin will not choose to "rewrite the memory and start from scratch" again. This is like what "Back to the Future" warns us, even if human beings have the ability to travel through time and space one day, they cannot be abused, otherwise it will be self-destruction. Nothing should be excessive, this is the law of nature. Suddenly Reine begins to feel an unprecedented loneliness, and while crying, her father appears. Lingyin said, Dad, in fact, I... Dad said, do you like everyone? Lingyin cried. Yes, she has always liked everyone. Once dissatisfied with the world due to loneliness, make it your own reason! It's me, I don't care about everyone, I don't care about the world, I don't care... Isn't this kind of loneliness caused by me? What about abandoning the body? Isn't it self-deceiving? At this point, the film is almost over. Lingyin returned to the world happily and found a chance to be reborn. The reunion with Alice was also very thought-provoking. In any case, what has been is what was. Maybe one day human beings can really rewrite memory, but this does not mean that human beings can rewrite history. No one remembers, just doesn't mean it didn't exist. So when Alice saw Reine, she was emotional. Maybe there is no memory, but there are feelings, because this relationship existed in the past, and it still exists now. A very perfect ending. The film uses a lot of language to mislead the audience, and the audience must, like Lingyin, go through the mazes, clear the layers of confusion, and find the truth. Yes, that doesn't mean it didn't exist. So when Alice saw Reine, she was emotional. Maybe there is no memory, but there are feelings, because this relationship existed in the past, and it still exists now. A very perfect ending. The film uses a lot of language to mislead the audience, and the audience must, like Lingyin, go through the mazes, clear the layers of confusion, and find the truth. Yes, that doesn't mean it didn't exist. So when Alice saw Reine, she was emotional. Maybe there is no memory, but there are feelings, because this relationship existed in the past, and it still exists now. A very perfect ending. The film uses a lot of language to mislead the audience, and the audience must, like Lingyin, go through the mazes, clear the layers of confusion, and find the truth.

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  • Alice 2022-03-30 09:01:11

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  • Dejon 2022-04-01 09:01:18

    To be honest, I think it's pretty ugly. Maybe because it didn't look good.

Serial Experiments Lain quotes

  • Lain Iwakura: Why? Why did you die?

    Navi [Dictating Chisa's response]: God is here.

  • Iwakura, Yasuo: Let me give you one little warning.

    Lain Iwakura: Huh?

    Iwakura, Yasuo: When it's all said and done, the Wired is just a medium of communication and the transfer of information. You mustn't confuse it with the real world. Do you understand what I'm warning you about?

    Lain Iwakura: You're wrong.

    Iwakura, Yasuo: Huh?

    Lain Iwakura: The border between the two isn't all that clear. I'll be able to enter it soon. In full range. Full motion. I'll translate myself into it.

    Iwakura, Yasuo: Even with a top of the line civilian Navi, you couldn't.

    Lain Iwakura: I can do it. I've modified mine.

    Iwakura, Yasuo: A Psyche processor, huh? But...

    Lain Iwakura: Don't worry. I'm still me.

    Iwakura, Yasuo: Sometimes I wonder.