Fragments of our memories!

Darion 2022-04-19 09:01:04

(1) Is the flashback structure of the movie a myth?
This is a key question about the quality of this movie, and it is also where many friends are puzzled. If it is, then the charm of the movie will be greatly reduced and it will fall into deliberate contrived.
the answer is negative. The flashback structure of the movie is to make the audience feel Lenny's amnesia more personally, and let the audience judge the plot like Lenny with only 10 minutes of continuous memory each.

(2) Is lenny physical amnesia or psychological amnesia?
This is the focal point of the film.
First of all, it is absolutely certain that lenny has psychological amnesia, there is no doubt about this. The best evidence is that after Sammy entered the hospital after the death of his "wife", half a second (1:29:55) after passing people in front of him, Sammy in a wheelchair became the protagonist.
So is lenny biological amnesia? If anything, then when lenny's wife was alive, how surprised lenny would be waking up every day to find that the wife who was murdered in his memory was alive, and what was even more puzzling was that if lenny had physical amnesia, then he would not Will wake up every day and remember that they are short-term amnesiacs - people with amnesia do not remember that they have amnesia.
However, if lenny didn't have physical amnesia, how could he have killed his wife? (Lenny's psychological amnesia is only after the death of his wife, and the death of his wife is a causal relationship, not a causal relationship.)
There seems to be a paradox here. Neither physical nor psychological amnesia can explain the plot.
The truth is that lenny has both physical and psychological amnesia. Physiological amnesia followed by psychological amnesia.
The thing is, lenny suffered from physical amnesia after being attacked by the gangster, but unlike the later movies, the last memory is that the gangster raped and killed his wife (as for what his last memory was at that time, No need to discuss). Lenny's wife was devastated and made Lenny repeatedly inject herself with insulin, which resulted in her death. The crux of the problem is the moment when lenny's wife died, the grief of losing his wife cured lenny's physical amnesia, and at this moment, lenny's head was completely clear (after all, love in the movie is great, it can explain everything that cannot be explained) question). But at this time, the sober lenny could not accept the cruel reality of killing his wife, so lenny chose to suffer from mental amnesia to escape this reality.
Another reason why lenny chooses to suffer from mental amnesia is the hatred of the gangster. It is conceivable that lenny attributed all this to the second gangster who did not subdue the law (the gangster in the movie does exist), no That person, he will not suffer from physical amnesia and will not kill his wife. Logically, this gangster is indeed Lenny's wife-killing enemy. Lenny's mental amnesia is not definitely the product of foolishness as some netizens have deduced.

(3) Did natalie use lenny or help lenny kill teddy?
Natalie was using lenny to fool at first, which is not controversial, but after lenny helped natalie get rid of dodd's entanglement (at least natalie thought she had gotten rid of dodd's entanglement), she really helped lenny. This point does not need to be entangled in the plot (there is no plot in the movie to conclude that natalie knows teddy, and there is no plot to conclude that she has a mortal hatred for teddy), it can be completely judged from the feelings and expressions that natalie treats lenny before and after she is sincere in helping lenny.
There is a more crucial point. It was his own decision that Lenny wanted to kill Teddy. Natalie just gave Lenny the real information according to the license plate provided by Lenny. In the middle of the incident, Natalie did not participate in anything. In other words, even without the information provided by natalie, lenny is going to kill teddy. So, teddy's death has nothing to do with natalie.

(4) After realizing the truth and taking revenge, did lenny decide to continue to deceive herself and continue the detective game?
This is the most important question of the film.
I'm leaning towards the "no" answer, which is that lenny just wants to kill the enemy who indirectly caused his wife's death and get rid of the teddy who has been taking advantage of him. Although this answer reduces the connotation of the film and destroys the structural beauty of the film. But this answer is logical.
First of all, it is necessary to make sure that there is a second gangster who did not subdue the law (there is no doubt about this, if netizens have any doubts, please find the answer in the movie yourself, the space problem, I won't go into details), lenny's psychological amnesia is hatred for him caused (otherwise the possibility of a "no" answer would not exist).
Secondly, why does Lenny continue to play detective games after killing the second gangster and getting his revenge? If Lenny only wants to kill the one and only enemy, why is he still watching this movie now? Weren't people killed by lenny long ago?
The problem is that although lenny wants to end "revenge", she has been fooled by teddy because of memory problems.
The director had a foreshadowing of this. In the film, when Lenny called on the phone, he suddenly saw the words "Never answer the phone" tattooed on his arm. This plot is very abrupt, the only explanation is that lenny had realized that someone was using the phone to fool him, lenny had long been wary of being used because of memory problems, and the person who used lenny was teddy. After Lenny refused to answer the call, he forced Teddy to surface from behind using the phone to manipulate lenny. Lenny used his memory flaw to pretend that he didn't know Teddy, and he was locked and killed by the fact that Teddy had fooled him. Lenny's memory is a flaw, but he uses his flaw to detect the enemy, how clever.
Lenny just wants to kill the only 2nd gangster, which is hinted at in many places in the movie. But it was ignored by many netizens. For example, a dialogue between lenny and natalie
Natalie: But even if you get revenge, you won't remember.
Lenny: The wife's revenge must be avenged. It doesn't matter if you remember it or not. Even if you don't remember it, it's still worth doing. Even if you close your eyes, the world doesn't disappear (this sentence is the key, what lenny believes is the truth, the truth of the matter. In other words, lenny doesn't care about his memory, but the fact that his wife's revenge is paid!). I can take a photo to remind myself, or tattoo a memo on my body (this sentence can conclude that lenny intends to take revenge and stop his detective life. Correspondingly, the photo of him after revenge is on teddy, which means teddy After fooling him, teddy hid the evidence of lenny's revenge, which is why lenny continues to "revenge") What
makes everyone puzzled is the last paragraph of the movie, it seems that lenny intends to destroy the truth and continue to fool himself. In fact, everyone was completely deceived by lenny, a man with a memory defect, who destroyed the photos just to kill teddy.
Analyzing Lenny's psychological monologue at the end of the film, it can be seen:
"I'm not a killer, I just want to remedy the mistake (the mistake was being used by teddy as a murder tool, and the mistake was manslaughtering jimmy)."
"You think I want to solve another riddle (you guessed it wrong, of course)? Go to another John•G? You're John•G too, you can be my John•G. I'm kidding myself Only happy (obviously not)? teddy, to you, I will (only to you, yes, because you fooled me).
Lenny's last psychological monologue This assertion looks like a declaration that Lenny intends to continue to be a detective to take revenge, On the contrary, this monologue is the most complex and at the heart of the film's puzzle:
"I have to believe that the world is not what I imagined, I have to believe that what I do still has meaning, even if I don't remember what I did, I want to Believe that even if I close my eyes, the world still exists (it seems that I intend to continue to deceive myself, in fact, this is what lenny is telling himself after knowing that he has successfully avenged his revenge - even if I don't remember that I have avenged my revenge after today, what I do is still Makes sense because, even if I don't remember, the world still exists, the fact remains - even if I don't remember, I've already had my revenge).
"Do I believe that the world still exists? (Note, there is a very critical image after this sentence, this is a scene imagined by lenny, lenny and his wife are in bed, lenny has a tattoo of "I have done it" on his chest. This It is a description of Lenny's psychological picture after knowing that he has actually taken revenge. It can be regarded as a luxury fantasy after Lenny has settled his mind, a perfect fantasy for him - his wife is not dead, lying tenderly. Beside him, and at the same time he avenged the rape of his wife, I have done it. Of course, the wife is not dead, it is just an illusion. After removing this, there is only another message left that satisfied him, I have done it. I have done it! Because this is the perfect world in lenny's dream, we can conclude from the sentence I have done it that lenny desires to have done it, not to continue to deceive himself to take 'fake revenge', in other words In other words, lenny longs for the end, not the end. Plus, off topic, this fantasy shot is a heart-wrenching scene—wife stroking his tattooed chest—and it’s a shot made by Flo The analysis method of Ide dream contains very complicated feelings with a huge amount of information - here I will not talk about the love that lenny has for his wife, lenny's loneliness, and after revenge, I hope to convey the news to the dead wife but can't. , and the hardships behind lenny's grievance for being disabled, especially the grief behind this hard year of longing for the comfort of his wife who has been impossible to get. Helpless, huge helplessness! This picture makes me cry.)
The world still exists? We need memory to determine who we are, I don't think otherwise (Lenny said this very proudly. It was lenny who figured out how to kill teddy and ended his career of revenge - as for lenny who came up with How to end his revenge career will be discussed later - lenny is very proud, a kind of pride in identifying with himself - so he said, I am not different.) "
Don't talk about it, you can completely determine Lenny's injustice with one plot. Going to continue to deceive himself - that's "fact 6" tattooed on him, teddy's license plate!
It all ends when lenny kills teddy. All of Lenny's revenge clues (tattoos) point to teddy, when Lenny kills teddy, all clues are over, lenny will easily find out that his enemy's license plate is a dead man's license plate, and he doesn't have any clues to continue (Continue? Let lenny remove the tattoos, otherwise he will find a dead person for revenge every time). That's what lenny came up with to kill the man who fooled him and stop himself from taking revenge.



The whole movie can be seen simply as the story of a memory disabled person killing someone who used his disability to fool and manipulate him.

In addition, what confuses the audience the most is that teddy said that lenny tore up the 12-leaf paper from the police file to deceive himself. Do you really believe what teddy says? Teddy's words are false, some are true, some are false, this paragraph is false, in fact, the file should be torn by teddy. Just think, if teddy didn't deliberately confuse lenny, how could he use him and trick him to kill jimmy?

This is also a conspiracy that the director plays to make his work achieve the greatest openness - the director has always done this in the film. It's not difficult to deal with the director's tricks. Those who are doubtful are doubtful, and some of the facts in the plot are used to deduce the plot that is worth doubting.

OK, that's it. Take a look at a sentence in the English script of the movie: I have to believe in the world outside my own mind.

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"Preserving his meaning in this world" is wishful thinking.

There is nothing in the whole movie to support this view In fact, the clue that there are many people supporting this view is nothing more than the large paragraph of "12 pages" of teddy, which is what teddy misled Lenny, and everyone was misled by teddy.

"Preserve his meaning in this world" is just teddy's conclusion, a point teddy has instilled in you.

The whole movie is very confusing, but teddy's dialogue is very clear, so it is easy for the audience to mistakenly feel the illusion of seeing the sun in the confusion and agree with the liar's conclusion.

Teddy has been misleading Lenny, do you believe what such people say?

I advise everyone, as Lenny told herself: don't trust teddy. Take his word for it, and you'll be fooled.
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Beginning (the beginning in the sense of time), lenny doesn't kill teddy, this is the director's loophole. ....is a forgivable loophole.

It is caused by the director's ingenious flashback structure. Although the film is a flashback, the director must create a climax at the end of the film (the beginning of the time sequence) in a traditional way, which is the product of the contradiction between this special narrative structure and the traditional film structure. When watching a movie, sometimes you need to judge for yourself which are the omissions of the director. The director is not a fairy, and not every detail conveys a specific meaning. . . . . .

Which are the key points? Which are the details? Still that, you came to the conclusion that lenny will continue to kill the game, in the whole film, only Teddy's sentence can be used as evidence (through this sentence, anyone can come to you without thinking at all) conclusion). Can you find any other evidence?

You rely on Teddy's words to judge Lenny's character and decisions, why not pay attention to Lenny's extensive psychological monologue? Such as the sentence "I am not a killer, I just want to remedy my mistakes.", such as "I have to believe in the world outside my own mind" (the world does not exist around me)
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I watched this movie again yesterday. It's a piece by piece in chronological order of the movies. It took me at least 3 hours to read it carefully. This viewing has been rewarding, and my conclusion now is that the movie simply does not have a perfect explanation. At the end, the protagonist does not immediately kill teddy, which is not only a bug (in the following text, the word "BUG" is also used to refer to this plot), but also the most charming way of dealing with it, which can lead to many explanations. The director didn't want to give a reasonable explanation at all, but made us think about all the possibilities. Such as your point of view, such as my point of view.

It's impossible to find a reasonable and unique explanation (if you really want to find it, you can only find a more reasonable, logical, and less loopy explanation), my explanation, can't face the fact that lenny doesn't kill teddy immediately . Your explanation contradicts most of the movie's plot except "lenny doesn't kill teddy right away".

You said "save photos", I explained in the text, it was Teddy who kept those photos privately. In the movie, when Lenny doesn't answer Teddy's phone, Teddy stuffs Lenny's revenge photo into the protagonist's room and forces Lenny to answer his phone. Why is the picture of lenny after revenge in teddy's hands? Because teddy wants to mislead and use lenny to help him kill, so teddy can't let lenny have evidence that he has avenged his revenge, so teddy keeps those photos private. In the same way, since Teddy can mislead Lenny by hiding the photos of Lenny's revenge, Teddy can (and must) use the same method to tear up the 12-page police file to mislead Lenny (or else, cannot use him). As for lenny burning the photo again at the end of the film, this is still a "BUG" problem involving the film, and why not kill teddy immediately is a problem.

Please pay attention again to the first shot at the beginning of the movie, where lenny takes a picture of teddy's death. If lenny was going to keep playing the killing game, he wouldn't have taken this photo. He took the picture just to end it all. If lenny decides to keep playing the killing game, why bother taking pictures. If according to your explanation, lenny will burn the photo again, this explanation is not to take off his pants and put P, ​​unnecessary?

When lenny killed jimmy, he also immediately took a photo to keep the evidence. As a result, jimmy said the word "Sammy" when he was about to die. Lenny immediately realized that he had killed the wrong person. It was very painful and blamed himself and said "what did I do?" At this time, Teddy came. Lenny pretended not to know Teddy very wisely, and took advantage of his own flaws to understand that it was all directed by Teddy, and then he became defensive (or murderous) against Teddy.

You think about this question: lenny has only ten minutes of memory, whether it can prove that lenny's personality is eternal and the way of dealing with problems will never change - because human personality does not change drastically in ten minutes. If lenny burns the photo, it shows that his personality and way of dealing with problems have changed dramatically in 10 minutes (actually less).

To go a little deeper, if your explanation is correct, lenny is someone who likes to play the "detective killing game", then he is a rubbish who cares about people's lives. If Lenny is such a person, why would Lenny regret killing the wrong person after killing jimmy? Let's cut off the plot. If teddy doesn't appear after lenny kills jimmy, do you think the protagonist who is in so much pain for killing the wrong person will decide to continue playing the killing game?

In this way, a paradox of human nature arises in a person with a constant character————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————You want to kill innocent people to satisfy your selfish desire. If you want to kill innocent people to satisfy your own desires, you will inevitably kill the wrong people, and you will regret killing the wrong people, so you will not want to kill innocent people to satisfy your own desires. How do you explain this human contradiction? Don't tell me that lenny is a multi-personality, then I'll sweat.

As for that "BUG", huh, not only is my explanation a "BUG", but yours is also a "BUG". Because, whether or not Lenny decides to continue the "killing game", it is most correct to kill Teddy immediately when the facts are clarified. Even if lenny intends to continue the "killing game", it's better to kill teddy first, then burn the photos, and then find the other innocents. As a person with a memory disability, lenny can't explain why he didn't kill the enemy immediately after discovering it.

The film ends with an extremely open ending. To solve this "bug", the most reasonable explanation is that lenny did not intend to kill teddy at all. Lenny thought that although Teddy had fooled him, he was not guilty of death, so he let him go. The biggest evidence to support this view is that the protagonist unloads the bullets from the pistol in the car. Through this lens, can we think that the director is insinuating that the protagonist is about to put down the butcher's knife? But contradicting this explanation, the protagonist wrote down teddy's license plate, which again shows that the protagonist has murderous intentions against teddy. Another contradiction!

This time, I overturned my previous point of view, and of course I think your point of view is even more illogical. My current views are basically mixed:

1. Lenny is definitely not a person who cares about life, and will not deliberately kill innocent people in order to satisfy his physical defects. But it does not rule out that Lenny has such a thought deep in his heart.
2. Lenny didn't kill Teddy immediately, which was the product of psychological contradiction. Lenny's kind side believes that Teddy's crime will not die (Teddy is kind to him and helps him kill the real murderer. Although Teddy used him to kill, but after all, what he killed was just a drug criminal). Lenny's dark side has a dark side that wants to play the "killing game". If Teddy is completely innocent, Lenny won't kill him. Lenny is not so dark. But teddy has been using lenny, lenny has a reason to kill him.
3. That's it, Lenny thinks that Teddy is both guilty and good; she wants to let Teddy go, but she is afraid that Teddy will continue to use him in the future. Lenny had just killed innocent people again, and had just heard teddy's subversive remarks that were both true and false, and his mind was cluttered. Don't make a decision at all, take advantage of the shortcomings of your own memory, and pass the burden on to the next one to deal with: don't kill teddy for the time being, it will be regarded as letting him go (the current "I" is considered to be your best friend to teddy), tattooed teddy's license plate (Whether the "me" will kill you in the future, God knows, I don't care now, teddy, didn't you say that I like to play "detective games", then let the "me" in the future play with you).


In the end, my explanation is even more bizarre than before, haha, there are still many loopholes, but at least I can justify it. In fact, you don't need to know what the movie is about, but you need to know what the movie is about.

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Memento quotes

  • Leonard Shelby: We all lie to ourselves to be happy.

  • Teddy: You know how many towns, how many guys called James G? Or John G? Shit, Leonard, I'm a fuckin' John G.

    Leonard Shelby: Your name's Teddy.

    Teddy: My *mother* calls me Teddy.