From Utopia to Venus Project? Decay is resistance

Luciano 2022-03-22 09:02:35

In Julien's post "From Utopia to Venus Project?", I have carefully read all the posts. I am very happy that so many people have watched this film, and most of them still agree with the film, so I also I would like to share my views on Julien's points. I have no education, no culture, and poor writing skills, so please be patient.

1. Resource, I think that all kinds of substances on the earth are in a repeated cycle of balance, but the emergence of human beings seems to have broken this balance, so no matter how you say it, it is wrong to squander it. When it comes to human needs, human beings Of course, the demand will expand indefinitely after the basic guarantee is met. This is true of human nature, whether it is material or spiritual. The primitive social system was formed to ensure basic survival needs, and the Venus plan in the film is for fairness and justice. Balanced coexistence is envisaged. The two systems are essentially different. One is for the self-protection of the ethnic group, and the other is for the balanced coexistence of human beings and the earth. Maybe it is absurd now, but it can only be absurd in terms of technology. The direction of the system is correct.
2. Energy, several assumptions in the film are limited to the collection of energy, not production. Therefore, it is not a perpetual motion machine at all. The power source is the sun and the moon, and the geothermal energy and light energy come from the sun. Tides come from the moon. I think that the energy released by atomic fission and cataclysm belongs to the production of energy, and the technology like "perpetual motion machine" is not necessarily a fallacy, it can almost be said to be inexhaustible, the detailed information is Do not explain.
3. The mode of transportation in the film is really impractical. The movement of the earth's plates will make this extremely fast orbital vehicle a suicide tool, but this is only a technical problem, not the theme of this film. We do not need to be in this aspect wasting too much tongue
4. "Money, as a means of allocating resources, is fair." I think Julien may not know about a phenomenon in this world called "equal wages for the same work", but I can't see how fair it is. The government, the government's responsibilities should be similar to the patriarch of the primitive society, responsible for the continuous progress of the entire country or ethnic group, of course, as a part of the government, people can never determine the rules of his behavior, which is somewhat similar to atoms and electrons. (Lang Xianping said In the content of the speech on the reform of the American stock market, the behavior of the old Kennedy is also very dramatic) So the fundamental problem of the government still depends on human nature, which does not conflict with the theme in this film. Religion, if religion can purify human nature, it will not There are so many sectarian conflicts, so there is nothing wrong with the film's denial of religion.
5. Venus Project and human's higher requirements for spirituality, reflection on culture, and affirmation of self-struggle...... Yes Conflict? Hmm~~~~~~~~ I think this is a problem that you haven't let go of your mind.
6. Mechanization, if you oppose mechanization, then you should also disagree with industrialization, I think the nature is probably no different , liberates more labor, human needs are unlimited, so there will still be other needs after liberating labor, which is the idea of ​​this film, a large-scale constructive weapon.
7. The law, similar to the government, is based on most People's interests are the starting point. It cannot be said that personal freedom harms other people, and your freedom to drink and drive harms other people's lives. There is indeed no monetary system, and people's opinions will still be divided, but you would not think that most people Do you agree with drinking and driving? If not, please obey the interests of the majority.
8. Pursuit, pursuit of different will have different orientations and different needs, but on the basis of not harming the interests of others. Venus Opportunity It doesn't make it clear that you have to wear Nike, and Adidas has to be closed. It doesn't conflict with this film either; education, .....don't know where there is a conflict between education and the Venus plan, even Julien didn't say it.

9. In addition, there is a reason for existence, but the reason is always to be overturned.

In the end, I think I didn't make a personal attack on Julien in the above point of view, first with respect and then soldier. So next, I will rhetorically ask my opinion, but there is no guarantee that there will be no personal attack.


Seeing Julien's point of view, it seems that it is still rigid and the thinking mode of the current social system. It seems that Julien is watching the first half of the film with a critical attitude. Of course, I have no knowledge, and I can't say that what is revealed in the film is the truth. But I think the events in the film are very convincing. However, from a critical point of view, there is nothing wrong with using the existing cognitive model to criticize the hypothetical constructive proposals for the next social stage described in the second half of the film.

People are divided into three, six, nine and so on. I have to admit that people have different thoughts and worldviews, so there will be differences in their behaviors, so their qualities and ideological heights are also different. Just like under the current elitism, some people just feel that they have a sense of superiority over others, so they have a better life than others, and others have to listen to his command and serve and he can bring out his ability. I think Julien is referring to the higher demands of the human spirit as "enslaving" others, believing that labor creates wealth is right, and it's also physical labor. When he succeeds in his struggle, he becomes a leader and directs others to do the physical work for him. I don't quite understand how technology creates wealth. "The director who writes the diary" and "the sanitation worker who changes socks" are the best manifestations of different personalities, but compared with the different qualities of people, different types of work are indeed equally important. Different jobs are the embodiment of human collective animal division of labor and cooperation, and each job contributes the same to society.

I admit that when I saw sanitation workers and welders before, I looked down on others. Now I know how low-level I was at that time.

Having said so much, it seems that we have all begun to "superstition" science and religion, but many great scientists went back to thinking about God in their later years, such as Newton and Einstein. Note that they are not superstitious about "God" or "Science". Only by subverting the existing fixed mode of cognition and thinking can we be qualified to comment on Venus.

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  • Sammy 2022-04-24 07:01:20

    http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/lhe-ArQPQks

  • Dovie 2022-03-23 09:02:58

    America's "Currency War," or America's New Communism Manifesto? Ha ha

Zeitgeist: Addendum quotes

  • Narrator: Of all the social institutions we are born into, directed by, and conditioned upon, there seems to be no system to be taken as granted, and misunderstood, as the monetary system. Taking on nearly religious proportions, the established monetary institution exists as one of the most unquestioned forms of faith there is. How money is created, the policies by which it is governed, and how it truly affects society, are unregistered interests of the great majority of the population.

  • Narrator: The fractional reserve policy, perpetrated by the Federal Reserve, which has spread in practice to the great majority of banks in the world, is, in fact, a system of modern slavery.